RE: [kidsgames] word familiarity

["Brian Thompson" <briandthompson@home.com>]

I finally got something it has been a while since I got anything, I got a
cable modem right before Christmas and then went on vacation and haven't
really been geeking since, ideas are a popping for other stuff but I haven't
been following the threads, sorry.  I am going to get back into it, I am
trying to download Mandrake's 7.0 and upgrade so its been more machine than
wares lately.  Thanks for keeping the faith and trying it got through.

Brian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kidsgames@smluc.org [mailto:owner-kidsgames@smluc.org]On
> Behalf Of jwaddell@ix.netcom.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 5:59 PM
> To: Brian & Carrie Thompson
> Cc: Kidsgames; Chris Ellec
> Subject: RE: [kidsgames] word familiarity
>
>
> Hi Brian and Carrie
>
> I hope this gets to you somehow, as your cbthomp address has been
> bouncing...
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Brian & Carrie Thompson wrote:
>
> -->Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:44:09 -0400
> -->From: Brian & Carrie Thompson <cbthomp@earthlink.net>
> -->To: Kidsgames <kidsgames@smluc.org>, Chris Ellec
> <info@linuxforkids.com>
> -->Subject: RE: [kidsgames] word familiarity
> -->
> -->Is someone working on the yawl package?
>
> Yes, but only VERY slowly.
>
>
> -->  I will start doing what I can.  I
> -->just would like to know what it's going to be used for and if
> I should group
> -->things the way that I mentioned earlier?
>
> I REALLY want to get this into some type of database format, so I can do
> SQL queries against it... I don't know if Postgres or MySQL is the best
> choice.  There are several reasons for having in a database, including but
> not limited to associating multiple pieces of data together that relate to
> the word.  This is the database schema I propose at the moment.  I know
> that it is long and I would not necessarily expect all data to be filled
> out on a given word at the same time.  Please chime in with what data we
> "don't really need" and the data I've completely not thought of....
>
> language flag: EN (for yawl, other langauges would use their languages
> standard coding ES for spanish as an example)
>
> word: 128 characters (are there any words longer than this? should it be
> shorter or longer?)
>
> filename (url instead maybe?) of a sound file containing the word
> pronounced.  Perhaps several more of these to include alternate
> pronunciations and/or male/female voices.
>
> filename (url?) of picture file containing (If the word is prone to it)
> a picture of the object the name names, or the action the word
> describes.... Perhaps as with the sound files, multiples of these to
> house multiple pictures that this word represents.
>
> definition: of the word in english (ala dictionary)
>
> room for say 15 alternate definitions:
>
> Pronunciation guide: (ala dictionary), is the dicitionaries method of
> marking sounds with letters copyrighted?)
>
> Age at which word would be expected to be recognized for reading
> [so a story book game can query the database for age appropriate words]
>
> Age at which word would be expected to be recognized for spelling (i.e.
> writing) [so a boggle/hangman/writing a story/wordfind game can query the
> database for age appropriate words]
>
> Age at which word would be expected to be recognized verbally
> [so a sound game (perhaps saying words pulled directly from the files
> pointed too in this database we are creating) can query age appropriate
> words]
>
> Age at which word would be expected to be spoken properly (properly being
> as indicated by the pronunciation guide)
> [so a game that requires the pupil to speak their answers (perhaps a
> picture is shown... and they respond...) can query age appropriate words]
>
> Age at which word would be expected to be associated to something (object
> or action...)
> [so a matching game can be created with age appropriate words]
>
> --> Word familiarity, as in dictionary
> -->or thesaurus or spelling or ....?
> -->
>
> ummm, well, yes.  All of them is my goal....
>
> -->Brian Thompson
> -->
> -->> -----Original Message-----
> -->> From: owner-kidsgames@smluc.org [mailto:owner-kidsgames@smluc.org]On
> -->> Behalf Of Chris Ellec
> -->> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:47 PM
> -->> To: kidsgames@smluc.org
> -->> Subject: Re:[kidsgames] word familiarity
> -->>
> -->>
> -->> > I had better luck getting it here
> -->> > http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/libs/yawl-0.1.tar.gz
> -->> >
> -->> > Dennis
> -->> >
> -->>
> -->> I got the package. It's 2.6M after untar, and the readme
> claims 258,000
> -->> words....
> -->>
> -->> How do we handle this ?
> -->>
>
> Apparently with a great deal of work :)  I hope my desires above don't add
> too much too it to make it unbearable,  I really believe we need that
> level of flexibility that having this information in database format will
> give us, not to mention how easy it will be to ADD new data, or change
> what is there, if we choose the database approach.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeff
>
> {ps I'm taking these in sequential order [or at least however it is pine
> is showing them to me...] so I apologize if I'm tramping in
> areas already well traveled.....)
>
>
>
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