hsmith@dockside.co.za wrote: >can we use swatch beat timing ... I get convused with GMT crap ;) The method I always use: <date> shows local time, <date -u> shows GMT time. Of course only if your timezone info is setup correctly ;) BTW: you should be at GMT+1 or GMT+2, right? (You're in the same timezone as I IIRC) Cu Christian -- Shut Windows and Close Gates...