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On 6 Jan 00, at 1:04, Pierre Phaneuf wrote:
> Bert Peers wrote:
> > Hey while I'm ranting anyway, I can explore the MFC/Qt
> > issue further if you don't mind :)
> Boy, that is a *good* rant!
> IMPORTANT NOTE: the following post could be offensive to people with too
> large an ego. I want to shake people to make them look around them and
> see the reality better.
> Reality check:
> <rant style="blunt declaration">
> Linux sucks for games!
I mostly agree with you two in the "Linux suited to games"
department. I've been experimenting with game programming for
windows and Linux in the last months, and although DirectX is
really an ugly and bloated API it's incredibly fast compared to
XWindows APIs. The XWindows system just wasn't designed for
games, as windows95 wasn't when released (there was a WinG
library for games but it was quite awful, performance-wise). But
then Microsoft realized that in order to completely replace DOS it
should support games, and the Game SDK (later to be called
DirectX) was developed.
But, in the tools department, I have just to agree with Erik and
Steve. I've had a similar experience to that of Eric: at first I just
used Borland's DOS IDEs (mostly Turbo C and Turbo C++), then
switched to Borland C++, and in the last two years ventured into
linux programming. At first I had some difficulties without integrated
tools and mainly without easy editors. Now I feel comfortable with
the wealth of tools Linux provides me, and I understand that
development under Linux follows a different philosophy than under
windows. I think that your "this is the middle-ages" feeling is
mostly explained by you not being used to linux development, not
that the windows way is the best way. This is yet another instance
of the classic GUI x command line interface debate, with the same
ease x flexibility, speed x power arguments. I personally like
graphical environments with many terminal windows open to get
power and flexibility when I need. As for development tools, I use
CodeCrusader only for editing, but it's a complete IDE that
generates Makefiles for projects and all. For Makefiles I really
prefer using automake/autoconf as these utilities can do a lot more
for me than preparing a Makefile for my own machine. As for
debuggers, gdb is great, it doesn't matter if I have to punch four
keys in my keyboard to call it; I had to use MSVC++ for a while
and I found it quite unstable, especially when using the integrated
I can think of good Linux replacements for almost anything
that's available for windows developers, but the converse is not
true. And the development tools, even the IDE click-a-button-your-
program-is-done types, are getting better. I really don't see the
reality of linux development in general as "medieval", I'm very
comfortable with it, more than with windows development.
Someone in the list mentioned quake3test was released first for
linux, and why is that ? As far as I know, John Carmack doesn't
write his games using windows.
I think the main issue here is about performance of games. I
would really like to see XWindows more friendly to game
developers, the other complaints mentioned about tools don't affect
my development at all.
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