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Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.





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----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Btfsplk

Sent: 08/10/11 09:55 PM

To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.


 
On 8/10/2011 5:21 AM, Achter Lieber wrote: 
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> 
>> From: Zaher F. 
>> 
>> Sent: 08/09/11 03:18 PM 
>> 
>> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions 
>> Tor. 
>> 
>> 
>> after reading all ur conversation... 
>> 
>> 
>> for me i didnt understand a very important thing : 
>> how come a software or tools as Telex and is not anonymity?????? 
>> because the most of blocked sites by the governments are restricted 
>> also and censored... 
>> 
>> 
>> so  i dont think a software like Telex can work against these 
>> governments cause no body is ready to loose his freedom.... 
>> 
>> ** couldn't resist - sorry 
>> "cause no body is ready to loose his freedom..." 
>> we're already losing our freedoms 
>> tor is about running and hiding ** 
>> 
>> thx 
>> 
>> > Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:34:34 +0800 
>> > From: jmmrchrdsn@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jmmrchrdsn@xxxxxxxxx> 
>> > To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - 
>> mentions Tor. 
Achter, this isn't a reply to the topic, but an FYI on how your posts 
show up (on my screen in Tbird). 

Your reply (that I enlarged text & enclosed between astrisks **, just 
shows up as part of the original quoted text.  IOW, it's not 
distinguished from any previous post at all, so doesn't appear to be a 
NEW post or reply.  * Don't know how it appears to others. *  I'm 
assuming if you wanted to insert comments at specific point, in the 
middle of previous post(s), you hit enter to start new text that isn't 
part of previous quoted replies?  Your post / reply is 1st I've seen 
this on - not sure why. 

Since I don't know which email client you have (or using some webmail), 
can't give specific suggestions.  Usually w/ Tbird, if you place cursor 
in quoted text, where want to insert reply (& have it show up distinctly 
from earlier posts), hit enter - it "breaks" the earlier quoted post & 
makes new text entered very distinct from quoted text. 

This is just FYI - if have any questions, please ask.  Maybe I or others 
can make suggestions. 
Another FYI - a Tbird addon I use to help reading msgs w/ multiple 
quotes is "QUOTE COLORS."  
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/quote-colors/ 
It makes it much easier to keep up w/ what text went w/ which author.  
I'm sure other email clients * may * have similar addons. 
Cheers. 
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Sorry. I will have to read your reply several times to gather your jist. It's not you. It's me.
I'm not really versed in email, or virtually any thing that has to do with a computer as far as
the enormous amounts of things any one software, including email programs, can do.
My comment was just a spur-of-the-moment type of thing and I meant to put the person's
quote in "quotes". I write a lot and the idea of Tor, anonymity, and the various political
climates that exist (and the comment),  just struck a chord with me. I just did it, ignoring
the real fact that I knew it was not really a topic for this group. Please forgive me for this
indiscretion.

I use Tor and live in a country where using proxies is "technically" against the law. I have
never had much trouble with it but my learning curve is so slow that I fear I will never be
able to become a server in the Tor network. I cannot find anyone in this part of the world
who uses it, knows about it, and who might be willing and able to teach me or help my
learning curve pick up some momentum and speed.

I believe it is vitally necessary to the world but that using it solely for, as I call it, "running
hiding", only serves a temporary answer to a solvable but difficult-to-solve problem.

Okay that's it. I try to not top-post as I think that is not okay here.

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