Re: [tor-talk] [Fwd: Multiple Internets]

[Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@xxxxxxxxx>]

> some fucking arrogant shit but some info as well
Totally. He's so patronizing. Reminds me of the oracle from the Matrix, if 
instead of baking cookies she had defended Phil Zimmerman in a 
criminal investigation of PGP and helped win the crypto wars.
-Jonathan



    On Friday, February 19, 2016 11:29 PM, Cari Machet <carimachet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

 ooooo interesting WW - thanks much

F2C2012: Eben Moglen keynote - "Innovation under Austerity"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2VHf5vpBy8

some fucking arrogant shit but some info as well

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:36 AM, <wirelesswarrior@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Ted Smith <tedks@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Apparently from: cypherpunks-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cypherpunks@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Multiple Internets]
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:02:57 -0500
>
> >I'm a little skeptical of wireless mesh networks as a general solution
> to this sort of problem, because they're inherently chatty, and have
> very limited reach.
>
> Wireless meshes are usually short range but there is no architectural
> reason they can't be linked by LoS or even longer distances connections.
> One area familiar to hams in the VHF/UHF bands is troposcatter. Tropo is
> similar to the more common HF phenomenon ionospheric reflection ("skip")
> but instead uses refraction changes in lower layers of the atmosphere due
> to temperature/density differences.
>
> Tropo is shorter range (generally 100-500 km) than skip and less RF
> efficient but tends to be more reliable and because it operates using much
> higher frequencies can support much higher bandwidth (data rates). All the
> VHF/UHF ham bands and several unlicensed bands (900 MHz, U.S. only), 2.4
> GHz and 5.7 GHz can all support tropo though reflection efficiency tends to
> be greatest at the lower frequencies.
>
> Until the advent of satellites tropo use was widespread by commercial and
> military. Now that anti-satellite tech is becoming more widespread (e.g.,
> recent Chinese launches) tropo is again being investigated
> http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/2013/07/army-troposcatter-communications.html
> I'm considering tropo experiments in one of the ham or ISM bands. Please PM
> if you might have SDR or RF skills, time and some money to throw toward
> this.
>
> Speaking of skip, in my PP Hacker Conference slides
> http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03580328025747098705 I discuss a
> variant, NVIS (Near Vertical Incident Skywave), first developed by the
> Germans during WW II, which allows HF stations operating between 2 - 12 MHz
> to bounce signals off the ionosphere for intermediate rage (25-100 km)
> non-LoS communications.
>
> WW
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