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Re: Sorbs



Is this not extortion?

Geoff

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:54:27PM +0300, maillist wrote:
> >Hi Markus,
> 
> >Do you have any concrete examples or evidence of SORBS demanding a
> >donation to remove servers from their published lists?  That might be an
> >interesting question from a legal perspective.
> 
> >Geoff
> 
> Hi
> The fine is small but annoying (50$). "You inherited the netblock or address
> after your provider moved a spammer" - why to pay them for something that
> you havent done (or why pay them anyway anything)?
> 
> Only proof is what I read from their website:
> http://www.au.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml
> ***************
>  How did I get listed in the first place...? Well there are a few
> possibilities:
>         a.. You are a spammer who has spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
>         b.. You are hosting DNS, webservices or mailservers (etc) for a
> spammer that has spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
>         c.. You are an innocent party that has been included in a wider
> listing policy because your provider is happy to host spammer(s) that have
> spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
>         d.. You had your machine hijacked by one or more spammers who have
> spammed a SORBS spamtrap or admin.
>         e.. You have a machine with a virus or trojan that has spammed a
> SORBS spamtrap or admin.
>         f.. You run an unsecure mailing list that has been used to spam a
> SORBS spamtrap or admin.
>         g.. You inherited the netblock or address after your provider moved
> a spammer.
>       SORBS will not delist you without paying the 'fine' for any of these
> reasons.
> 
>        If you are part of a wider netblock that is blocked you are not
> required to pay the SORBS 'fine' as the entry was not generated because of
> your actions, however your netblock will not be removed until your upstream
> removes the spammers.
> 
> 
> 
>  The 'fine' is US $50.00 and is designed to be small enough to so that the
> home user will think twice about getting listed a second time, and small
> enough to be a 'right royal pain in the butt' to any large company. The idea
> being, that whether you are a multi-national company or a single home user,
> you will think twice about getting relisted for any reason.
> *********************
> 
> Markus
> 

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