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Re: IRCNet abuse
Gee.. you really should actually read the text of the ECPA...
examination of individual emails is perfectly OK
with the courts as long as it was done on a service monitoring
basis(i.e. the mails kicked into that bucket could have malware embedded
, evidence of illegal transactions/blackmail/threats etc(and working
formerly as a mail admin for a large ISP all of this was encountered))
if you need/want privacy then USE encryption to the final delivery
point else EXPECT monitoring..
THIS IS REALITY..
as far as Rude or unethical.. I consider it Rude and unethical to
use a privacy system to harass or intimidate people spread malware,
control Trojans(very common under IRC) , it has been my experience that
this often happens, and I DONT care for an innocent being attacked by
using the hardware/network connection I provide, there are such things
as civil liability torts you know, if I was negligent in stopping this
kind of attack appearing to originate from MY network connection, I
could be sued quite successfully on this basis as I operate from a
business NOT an EDU where University lawyers will defend the
Universities property when it is misused by a student.
A tor operator
Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:10:35PM -0700, tor wrote:
:Gee... if it can be exposed by sniffing then it isnt much of a privacy
The network doesn't protect people from themselves. Talking on
unencrypted IRC and expecting privacy is silly.
:Tor operators/developers should Always sniff their servers
:traffic at least occasionally to see if holes or information is being
statistical analysis of traffic patterns is one thing, reading
people's IRC conversations is another entirely.
: A tor/patcher who always sniffs his server traffic
: a tor user
:ps not only is it NOT rude it is completely legal in the US at least to
:monitor the traffic to/from a given server if you own that server, this
:is completely a legal action under ECPA.
INAL, but I wouldn't want to put that to the test in court. Can your
ISP admins read your mail? I don't think so (employers are
different), and this is directly analogous.
I make no determination on the legality on the US or elsewhere, but it
is most certainly rude and unethical.