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RE: Some legal trouble with TOR in France

Not if you didn't have them prior to receiving the notice and can prove

e.g. after taking away your PC and realising it is encrypted they return
with a notice. You then hand over token and say by the way I previously
destroyed the data on it so I don't have the keys. You have met your
legal obligations. There is no offence of 'suspecting a notice might be
served and destroying the keys in advance of receipt' that I am aware

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dave Page
Sent: 14 May 2006 15:00
To: or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Some legal trouble with TOR in France

On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 03:58:06PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 02:32:50PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:

> > Under the British "Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act", they
> > would simply confiscate the entire machine, demand any
> > authentication tokens required to access it, and lock you up if you
> > refused to surrender them.  I believe similar laws exist in most EU
> > jurisdictions now.

> Tony's point was that you could arrange not to have the authentication
> tokens anymore. You better hope they believe you when you say you
> don't have it, though.

Not having the authentication tokens counts as refusing to surrender

Dave Page <grimoire@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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