Re: [tor-talk] MITM attack on TLS

[Justin <davisjustin002@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,
You would be correct normally, but at school, I know the IT guy very well.  I have calculated that he is probably too lazy to check his logs.  He usually doesnât check things out until someone tells him that a problem is occurring.  Even if Meek-Google is broken, I got more information from him that would indicate that he probably wonât MITM Meek-Amazon or Azure.  If it does become dangerous, I will switch to one of those.
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 4:36 PM, mick <mbm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:56:12 -0500
> Allen <allenpmd@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:allenpmd@xxxxxxxxx>> allegedly wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>>> SSH is probably more dangerous than OBFS4 because it coulee be
>>>> detected
>>> with a DPI fingerprint.  They might question that.  I think Tor with
>>> transports is good.
>>> 
>>> On that paranioa level OBFS4 is as dangerous as SSH - it doesn't
>>> matter if they see traffic they can fingerprint as ssh or they see
>>> traffic they cannot fingerprint. They get suspicious in both cases.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Personally, I would think SSH is much safer.  It is used by IT people
>> all the time for server management, so they will understand it.  The
>> destination address will be a cloud server, which you can simply say
>> you are using for a personal project.  OBFS4 on the other hand is not
>> normally used by IT people--it is used to get around IT people.  They
>> will immediately be very suspicious if they are able to figure out the
>> protocol.  And the destination IP address is who-knows-what, which
>> could by itself raise questions and might even lead them to think a
>> computer on their network could be infected with a virus that needs
>> immediate investigation.  In the end, a protocol they know and
>> understand and use in their own work will be much less threatening to
>> them than something they don't.
> 
> To the OP (and others who may wish to try something similar) my strong
> advice is "don't, just don't". I've been a network admin and sysadmin
> on corporate systems. Unauthorised traffic on such a network /will/
> attract attention, /will/ piss off the admins and almost /certainly
> will/ result in disciplinary action including and up to summary
> dismissal depending upon the terms of your contract.
> 
> Mick
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