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Re: [tor-talk] tor-talk Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15



 The fact people abuse a service like Tor to shitpost on social medias is just fucking pathetic to be honest. How bored does a person have to be? Sure it has its lows (underground websites) but its uses for genuine reasons are invaluable. Well, they were until troll made sure every website is anti-Tor.


>Monday, September 14, 2015 7:39 AM UTC from tor-talk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
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>ÂÂÂ1. Re: tor + twitter issues (Colin Mahns)
>ÂÂÂ2. p2p(skype and other VOIP) blocked in .UZ (Vladimir Teplouhov)
>ÂÂÂ3. Re: p2p(skype and other VOIP) blocked in .UZ
>ÂÂÂÂÂÂ(cicada_3301@xxxxxxxxxx)
>ÂÂÂ4. Re: p2p(skype and other VOIP) blocked in .UZ (Griffin Boyce)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:19:09 -0400
>From: Colin Mahns < colinmahns@xxxxxxxxxx >
>To:  tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] tor + twitter issues
>Message-ID: < 20150914011907.GA30016@xxxxxxxxxx >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>* Tempest < tempest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [2015-09-14 00:08:44 +0000]:
>
>>to sum up, twitter now appears to be desiring phone numbers from tor
>>users in order to use their service. without feedback, i expect this
>>will get worse. over the past 30 days, twitter has regularly locked me
>>out and required password resets. this is the first time i've been
>>required to provide a phone number to get my account unlocked.
>
>Sadly Twitter seems to have been enforcing this over the past year[0] or
>so, and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. IIRC, Twitter tries to
>do this in an attempt to try and curtail perceived abuse and/or trolls
>from using Twitter as a platform, but they go about it in the worst way
>possible. 
>
>The hashtag #TwitterTorLockout[1] has been used by several members of
>the community (including devs) to voice their complaints about Twitter
>doing this, but as you can see nothing has improved. 
>
>Does anyone on this list has contacts in Twitter who might be open to
>talking with the community, can you ask them to join this list? I really
>would love to see this issue resolved along with my account not being
>locked out. 
>
>[0]:  http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/02/twitter-tor-phone-verification/
>[1]:  https://twitter.com/search?q=%23twittertorlockout
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:31:37 +0700
>From: Vladimir Teplouhov < vladimir.teplouhov@xxxxxxxxx >
>To: tor-talk < tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
>Subject: [tor-talk] p2p(skype and other VOIP) blocked in .UZ
>Message-ID:
>< CAE-sae85hdMdpLoH987Y2oWamL+nahHbWx0Q3Jx6XtSAbEoyoA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>Hello.
>
>ÂÂ? ????-???? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ? ???????????(? ??.)?
>??? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????
>
>???????? ???????? skype ? ?????? ????????? ???????...
>http://uforum.uz/showthread.php?t=15221&page=205
>
>
>??? ???????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????:
>
>* ???????? ????? ??????????-?????? ???????, ????? ????? ? ??????? ? ????? ????,
>?? ????? ????????? ?????? ????????? ????? ??????????, ??? ?????????? ????????...
>
>* ?????-?? ????? ?????? VPN, ?? ????? VPN ???? ????????? ???????? ??????
>(TOR ?? ?????? ?? ???????? ????, ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ????????)
>
>* ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ??????-??????????, ??????
>?????? ????? ??????? ???? ??? (?? ????? ????? ????? ????? ?????????
>?????? ??????? ? ?? ?????????? ????)
>
>* ??????????? ???? ??????????? ? ?????????? ????????? ??????? ?
>??????? ?????? - ??????? ????????? ??????? ??????????? ???????????? ?
>????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? - ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?????
>??? ???? ???????????????? ?????? ? ?.?. ?? ????????????? ? ???????????
>TOR ? ??.
>(????????? ??????? ????????????? ? ?????????? VoIP ???????????,
>_?????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ????? ????? ???????_, ??????? ?????????
>???????????????? ????,
>?? ??????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?? ????? ??????)
>
>
>????????????? ? ????? ??? ?????????? ????????????? VoIP ?? ??????
>????????, ??? ?? ??????,
>?? _????? ??? ???? ?? ??????????? ?????????_(??? ???? ?? ? ?????? ????
>?? IP), ??? ????????...
>
>???-?? ???????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ????? ????????? ? skype!
>
>
>??????? ? ???? ???????? ??????????, ??? ??? ?????????? ????? ??????????? ??????,
>???????? ????????????? ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ???????
>p2p - ??? ?????????? ? ?????? ??????...
>
>Vladimir
>PS  ?? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?????-?? ????????????? ???????????? ? ?????,
>?? ? ????? ??? ??????????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ???-??
>??????(? .UZ ??? ?????
>?????? ??? ?? ????????????, ?? ?????, ? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??????
>??? ??????????
>????-????????????????? ??????, ?? ????????????? ????????????
>??-???????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?????!)...
>ÂÂ??-???????? ?? ???????????? ?????? ????????? ???? ????????? ?????
>?????????? ????????????,
>??? ??? ???????? ????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ??????? ? ?????? ?
>??. ???????, ??? ? ???????-?? ?? ?????? ??? ???...  ??? ????? ??????
>?? ????? ???????
>
>PPS  ????????? bitcoin ? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ????? ??????
>??????? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????????? ?? ?????? ????????, ???? ???
>??????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????????...
>(? ????? ? ????? ????? ?????? ????????? ???????? _??????????_
>??????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ? ?????? ???????????? ??
>?????????? ?????????...)
>???-?? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ????????
>??????? ??????????????? - ?? ?? ????? ? ???? ?????? ?.?. ?????
>????????? "???????? ?????" - ?????? ????? ??????????? ??????? ????????
>?? ???? ?? ???????, ? ?????????? ???????? ? ????? ???????????
>??????...
>
>PPPS  ???????? ????????? ?? ?????????? - ?????????????? ???????????
>????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????, ?? ? ???????? ?????...
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:35:28 +0000
>From:  cicada_3301@xxxxxxxxxx
>To:  tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] p2p(skype and other VOIP) blocked in .UZ
>Message-ID: < 24dc7f62e552f889a0cfa61fd7c5ccd9@xxxxxxxxxx >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>Have you tried:  https://meet.jit.si ?
>
>Best Regards,
>Cicada.
>
>On 2015-09-14 05:31, Vladimir Teplouhov wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 
>>   ? ????-???? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ? 
>> ???????????(? ??.)?
>> ??? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????
>> 
>> ???????? ???????? skype ? ?????? ????????? ???????...
>>  http://uforum.uz/showthread.php?t=15221&page=205
>> 
>> 
>> ??? ???????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????:
>> 
>> * ???????? ????? ??????????-?????? ???????, ????? ????? ? ??????? ? 
>> ????? ????,
>> ?? ????? ????????? ?????? ????????? ????? ??????????, ??? ?????????? 
>> ????????...
>> 
>> * ?????-?? ????? ?????? VPN, ?? ????? VPN ???? ????????? ???????? 
>> ??????
>> (TOR ?? ?????? ?? ???????? ????, ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ????????)
>> 
>> * ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ??????-??????????, ??????
>> ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ??? (?? ????? ????? ????? ????? ?????????
>> ?????? ??????? ? ?? ?????????? ????)
>> 
>> * ??????????? ???? ??????????? ? ?????????? ????????? ??????? ?
>> ??????? ?????? - ??????? ????????? ??????? ??????????? ???????????? ?
>> ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? - ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?????
>> ??? ???? ???????????????? ?????? ? ?.?. ?? ????????????? ? ???????????
>> TOR ? ??.
>> (????????? ??????? ????????????? ? ?????????? VoIP ???????????,
>> _?????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ????? ????? ???????_, ??????? ?????????
>> ???????????????? ????,
>> ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?? ????? 
>> ??????)
>> 
>> 
>> ????????????? ? ????? ??? ?????????? ????????????? VoIP ?? ??????
>> ????????, ??? ?? ??????,
>> ?? _????? ??? ???? ?? ??????????? ?????????_(??? ???? ?? ? ?????? ????
>> ?? IP), ??? ????????...
>> 
>> ???-?? ???????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ????? ????????? ? skype!
>> 
>> 
>> ??????? ? ???? ???????? ??????????, ??? ??? ?????????? ????? 
>> ??????????? ??????,
>> ???????? ????????????? ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ???????
>> p2p - ??? ?????????? ? ?????? ??????...
>> 
>> Vladimir
>> PS  ?? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?????-?? ????????????? ???????????? ? 
>> ?????,
>> ?? ? ????? ??? ??????????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ???-??
>> ??????(? .UZ ??? ?????
>> ?????? ??? ?? ????????????, ?? ?????, ? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??????
>> ??? ??????????
>> ????-????????????????? ??????, ?? ????????????? ????????????
>> ??-???????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?????!)...
>>   ??-???????? ?? ???????????? ?????? ????????? ???? ????????? ?????
>> ?????????? ????????????,
>> ??? ??? ???????? ????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ??????? ? ?????? ?
>> ??. ???????, ??? ? ???????-?? ?? ?????? ??? ???...  ??? ????? ??????
>> ?? ????? ???????
>> 
>> PPS  ????????? bitcoin ? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ????? ??????
>> ??????? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????????? ?? ?????? ????????, ???? ???
>> ??????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????????...
>> (? ????? ? ????? ????? ?????? ????????? ???????? _??????????_
>> ??????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ? ?????? ???????????? ??
>> ?????????? ?????????...)
>> ???-?? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ????????
>> ??????? ??????????????? - ?? ?? ????? ? ???? ?????? ?.?. ?????
>> ????????? "???????? ?????" - ?????? ????? ??????????? ??????? ????????
>> ?? ???? ?? ???????, ? ?????????? ???????? ? ????? ???????????
>> ??????...
>> 
>> PPPS  ???????? ????????? ?? ?????????? - ?????????????? ???????????
>> ????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????, ?? ? ???????? ?????...
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 03:11:19 -0400
>From: Griffin Boyce < griffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
>To:  tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [tor-talk] p2p(skype and other VOIP) blocked in .UZ
>Message-ID: < d21d208fca3755001562bec88e00fbfe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>ÂÂÂFor video chatting, I like using Talky.io .  Using Skype with Tor 
>doesn't work very well.  But Tor does work in Uzbekistan and Russia. 
>During some blocking events, you may need to use a bridge or obfs3 
>bridge to connect to the Tor network.
>
>best,
>Griffin
>
>
>On 2015-09-14 01:31, Vladimir Teplouhov wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 
>>   ? ????-???? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ? 
>> ???????????(? ??.)?
>> ??? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????
>> 
>> ???????? ???????? skype ? ?????? ????????? ???????...
>>  http://uforum.uz/showthread.php?t=15221&page=205
>> 
>> 
>> ??? ???????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????:
>> 
>> * ???????? ????? ??????????-?????? ???????, ????? ????? ? ??????? ? 
>> ????? ????,
>> ?? ????? ????????? ?????? ????????? ????? ??????????, ??? ?????????? 
>> ????????...
>> 
>> * ?????-?? ????? ?????? VPN, ?? ????? VPN ???? ????????? ???????? 
>> ??????
>> (TOR ?? ?????? ?? ???????? ????, ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ????????)
>> 
>> * ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ??????-??????????, ??????
>> ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ??? (?? ????? ????? ????? ????? ?????????
>> ?????? ??????? ? ?? ?????????? ????)
>> 
>> * ??????????? ???? ??????????? ? ?????????? ????????? ??????? ?
>> ??????? ?????? - ??????? ????????? ??????? ??????????? ???????????? ?
>> ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? - ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?????
>> ??? ???? ???????????????? ?????? ? ?.?. ?? ????????????? ? ???????????
>> TOR ? ??.
>> (????????? ??????? ????????????? ? ?????????? VoIP ???????????,
>> _?????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ????? ????? ???????_, ??????? ?????????
>> ???????????????? ????,
>> ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?? ????? 
>> ??????)
>> 
>> 
>> ????????????? ? ????? ??? ?????????? ????????????? VoIP ?? ??????
>> ????????, ??? ?? ??????,
>> ?? _????? ??? ???? ?? ??????????? ?????????_(??? ???? ?? ? ?????? ????
>> ?? IP), ??? ????????...
>> 
>> ???-?? ???????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ????? ????????? ? skype!
>> 
>> 
>> ??????? ? ???? ???????? ??????????, ??? ??? ?????????? ????? 
>> ??????????? ??????,
>> ???????? ????????????? ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ???????
>> p2p - ??? ?????????? ? ?????? ??????...
>> 
>> Vladimir
>> PS  ?? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?????-?? ????????????? ???????????? ? 
>> ?????,
>> ?? ? ????? ??? ??????????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ???-??
>> ??????(? .UZ ??? ?????
>> ?????? ??? ?? ????????????, ?? ?????, ? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??????
>> ??? ??????????
>> ????-????????????????? ??????, ?? ????????????? ????????????
>> ??-???????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?????!)...
>>   ??-???????? ?? ???????????? ?????? ????????? ???? ????????? ?????
>> ?????????? ????????????,
>> ??? ??? ???????? ????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ??????? ? ?????? ?
>> ??. ???????, ??? ? ???????-?? ?? ?????? ??? ???...  ??? ????? ??????
>> ?? ????? ???????
>> 
>> PPS  ????????? bitcoin ? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ????? ??????
>> ??????? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????????? ?? ?????? ????????, ???? ???
>> ??????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????????...
>> (? ????? ? ????? ????? ?????? ????????? ???????? _??????????_
>> ??????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ? ?????? ???????????? ??
>> ?????????? ?????????...)
>> ???-?? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ????????
>> ??????? ??????????????? - ?? ?? ????? ? ???? ?????? ?.?. ?????
>> ????????? "???????? ?????" - ?????? ????? ??????????? ??????? ????????
>> ?? ???? ?? ???????, ? ?????????? ???????? ? ????? ???????????
>> ??????...
>> 
>> PPPS  ???????? ????????? ?? ?????????? - ?????????????? ???????????
>> ????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????, ?? ? ???????? ?????...
>
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