Re: [pygame] Multimedia: was: Introducing Pygame Launcher alpha

[thor <thorthor@altern.org>]

Hi Bob and others!

> > Well, the nice thing about Processing is that you can extend your 
> > Processing code with ALL the ability
> > of Java itself. Thus it is extremely wide environment if you're 
> > willing to go out of the Processing world
> > and enter the world of Java. And then you've got a cross platform 
> > environment that is quite powerful.
> I have never seen a real application built with Processing that does 
> any more than what you'd be able to do with pygame by itself.. though 
> I haven't really paid any attention to it since its beginnings.
No, people tend to do sketches with Processing. But you _could_ use 
Processing's Java classes in a Java
application which has menues, GUI elements and other things which 
Pygame doesn't have.

Anyway, I just mentioned Processing as one of the multimedia 
environments.

> wxPython is going to work nearly as well as Swing does 
> cross-platform.. so that puts it more or less on equal ground with 
> Java in the cross-platform GUI arena.
Well, as far as I know you can't run wxPython and Pygame in the same 
application.
Thus not possible to do what I describe Processing/Java doing above.

> No C knowledge should be necessary to write a framework that provides 
> you with an equivalent environment to Processing.
No, but making Pygame work with wxPython does. Or what?

> I don't agree that it would make that much of a dent in Python's 
> popularity.  The audience of a tool like Processing probably isn't as 
> big as you think it is :)
I have no idea, but it seems to me that processing is quite alive 
compared to pygame:
http://processing.org/discourse

But note: I am trying to create war here or valuing one over the other.
I am just trying to point to what I think would be great for python: to 
be able to do
multimedia content, CD-Roms, and other stuff.

cheers
thor