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Re: Spreading the word (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [seul-edu] Want to presentatLINUXWORLD NY/2002?])
Sounds like the Debian JR project.
basicaly it's a debian task that is specific for kids.
On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Michael Hall wrote:
> Actually, another idea I had was to write a script (bash, or maybe Python) that
> was in effect a 'virtual distribution'. In other words, you would first load a
> standard distribution (say RedHat) then run the script which would remove
> everything you didn't need, add some admin tools, tighten up security etc, and
> then download and install a list of education applications (using wget). It's a
> bit klunkier than a proper distro, but has some advantages too.
> Anyone care to comment on this idea? I've written something similar for custom
> standalone web/mail servers, I just haven't played with wget before.
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2001, you wrote:
> > Michael Hall wrote:
> > > > This is a perceptual problem, I think. We should try to turn this argument on
> > > > its head by asking just what type of applications they want in the classroom,
> > > > and then pointing out that such apps (if it's true) are freely downloadable and
> > > > installable from the internet.
> > >
> > > This is simply not practical for anyone but a Linux enthusiast. People who
> > > don't already know and use Linux can't and won't download and install apps from
> > > the internet, let alone change them themselves. Asking maintainers to change
> > > apps is not a very sure way of getting what you need when you need it.
> > >
> > I agree that it's not an argument that will persuade people to use Linux for the
> > first time. But I still think it's an argument that needs to be made. The
> > comparison of open source development to academic review in journals is something we
> > need to make clear to educators.
> > >
> > > I believe that a school distribution needs to be developed ... put the CD in,
> > > load the distro, use it ... no mucking around. It has to be that easy if anyone
> > > but the converted is going to use Linux in a big way. Being Windows and
> > > Mac users, most school people (including many IT coordinators) know very
> > > little about computers. At least, that's my perspective as a primary school
> > > teacher in Central Australia.
> > >
> > This is undoubtedly true. We even talked about doing our own distro a while back.
> > We decided not to for various reasons. However, there are now a number of "school"
> > distros being developed. There's <http://www.k12ltsp.org/>,
> > <http://www.abuledu.org/> (I'm unsure if this is a complete distro), and
> > <http://www.pingoo.org/>. There are probably more that I'm not thinking of offhand.
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