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SEUL: Re: Status of documentation?
> > While seul isn't working on a distrib or installer anymore,
> What is the current status of seul? Do you mean that seul is
> sleeping or that it focuses is work on the Desktop/environment
> parts. This would be great because we could work together!
> For L=E6t, the only big new idea is, as far as I know, the order
> of install steps :
> - make a grafical environment as soon as possible (VGA)
> - choose simplified list of packages (with only tested and
> confuigured packages inside
> - try to propose a partition plan
> - do the partitions automagically after user control/fine setup
> - install.
> If there are suitable pieces of code in the beginning seul project,
> that would be great :).
> Followup to the main l=E6t list.
SEUL (www.seul.org) is working primarily on the non-technical aspects of
bringing Linux to end-users -- advocacy documents, managing and coordinating
communications between projects, market/user research and feedback from
end-users, to a limited extent documentation, etc. In addition to this, the
SEUL Educational Project (www.seul.org/edu/) is moving forward with
developing and collecting software that can be used in the schools and at
home for educational purposes. SEUL also hosts a number of software
development/etc projects (eg WXftp, gEDA, FreeHDL, FreeCASE, DrGEO, Project
Independence), as well as providing services for other worthwhile projects
(for example, we keep list archives for Project Computerbank,
I have begun talking in personal mail with Eric Barroca (I believe he's
the leader of the Laetos project?) about ways we can work together. I
would like to see as many of the Laetos products as possible be
distribution-independent, especially if Laetos is based on Debian --
while Debian is a great distrib, it has a long way to go in terms of
actually reaching very many end-users. But there will be no distribution
flamewars on here, I hope.
I encourage people to subscribe to the seul-pub list (mail to
firstname.lastname@example.org with body 'subscribe seul-pub') for discussion of
collaboration between the various projects (currently the discussion is
on possible collaboration between Laetos and Project Independence). It's
a relatively low-traffic list, in general.
You can read the archives of the discussion at
Things I can provide for Laetos:
* The seul-announce list has 732 people on it currently, and they all
want to hear about new advances in making Linux better for the
end-users. I also know several of the news organizations (Dave
Whitinger of Linuxtoday, Liz from Linux Weekly News, etc) and have
contacts in other places (SPI, etc).
* I've got a lot of computing space I can put towards Laetos if you
guys need it. (I expect Debian will be able to help out with this as
* We've got quite a few advocacy documents. Our 'Why Linux?' document
is the most popular, but we've got several others, plus some more
that are currently in draft form. I encourage people to look at
associated links if they want to work on advocacy documents.
The Laetos frontpage mentions a "really big communication effort" to
educate the public about the benefits of free software. I've seen way
too many projects (particularly end-user-oriented projects) fail over
the past three years because they try to do everything at once. I suggest
that Laetos should focus only on the distrib, rather than trying to tackle
advocacy as well. Certainly a distribution is a large enough task for the