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Re: SEUL: Re: hosting on seul.org

Demos are computer graphics programs set to music.


Doug Loss wrote:

> Roger Dingledine wrote:
> >
> > > I'm the author of various scripts to install and configure sendmail,qmail=
> > >  and
> > > Apache/PHP/MySQL. There's been huge interest in them whenever they were p=
> > > ut on
> > > freshmeat but I've been looking for a new site to host my own site DemoNi=
> > > x for
> > > quite a while as Xoom has started putting frames on their pages :|
> > > Anyway, check out http://members.xoom.com/xeer/index.html and I'd be inte=
> > > rested
> > > in having seul.org host my site in future.
> > Thanks for dropping me a note. I looked at the site, and it looks like it
> > has some interesting ideas. On the other hand, it covers a very broad array
> > of topics. Usually, sites that the seul project hosts focus on one or a few
> > problems, and go very indepth on those problems.
> >
> I looked at his site and I think his install scripts fit very nicely
> into what SEUL is trying to do.  However, I agree with Roger that the
> links and tutorials aren't really part of what we're here for.
> > Another issue is that it isn't directly obvious to me how it's oriented at
> > the end-user (see http://www.seul.org/what/manifesto.html for a description
> > of what we think that means).
> >
> See above. Also, the entire demo scene thing goes right over my head.
> AFAIK, a demo in computer terms is a non-functional implementation of
> the interface for a program that's primarily used for demonstration and
> sales purposes.  I'm pretty sure that isn't what he means here; just
> what _are_ demos in these terms?  At any rate, I don't think they're
> oriented toward the end user so much as the demo developer subculture
> (whatever that is).
> > I'm not saying your site is bad, or even that we won't host it. It's just
> > that I would be much more comfortable if you picked a couple of points to
> > address more deeply, and the reasoning for why these points are related to
> > end-users was more obvious.
> Well, I'd propose that we could provide web, cvs, and ftp space for the
> install scripts at least.  You know, the standard stuff we offer anyone
> with useful programs that go toward the SEUL purpose.  However, I think
> we have to be careful about becoming a site for personal homepages for
> people who have programs we want to foster.  That could dilute our focus
> terribly.
> --
> Doug Loss                 A life spent making mistakes is not only
> Data Network Coordinator  more honorable, but more useful than a
> Bloomsburg University     life spent doing nothing.
> dloss@bloomu.edu                G. B. Shaw

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