Re: [tor-bugs] #28925 [Core Tor/Tor]: distinguish PT vs proxy for real in bootstrap tracker

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#28925: distinguish PT vs proxy for real in bootstrap tracker
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 Reporter:  catalyst                             |          Owner:
                                                 |  catalyst
     Type:  defect                               |         Status:
                                                 |  assigned
 Priority:  High                                 |      Milestone:  Tor:
                                                 |  0.4.0.x-final
Component:  Core Tor/Tor                         |        Version:
 Severity:  Normal                               |     Resolution:
 Keywords:  s8-bootstrap, usability, ux, tor-    |  Actual Points:
  pt, tbb-needs, 040-must, network-team-         |
  roadmap-2019-Q1Q2                              |
Parent ID:  #28018                               |         Points:
 Reviewer:                                       |        Sponsor:
                                                 |  Sponsor19
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:11 mcs]:
 > Replying to [comment:10 catalyst]:
 > > Replying to [comment:7 mcs]:
 > > > I added tbb-needs to this ticket (which I included on #29341 when I
 filed it).
 > > Sorry for dropping the tag. Do you need this to be in 0.4.0? It might
 be easier to put in 0.4.1 because we can use the pubsub framework. It
 might be possible to put it in 0.4.0 but it might take longer, and might
 be too big a change at this stage of the release.
 >
 > I added Georg to the Cc list on this ticket.
 >
 > I looked at the Core Tor release dates on the following page:
 >
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/NetworkTeam/CoreTorReleases
 >
 > The misleading bootstrap messages are confusing, but I think that is
 acceptable in a Tor Browser alpha.  However, this seems like a bug we
 would not want to have in a stable release (at least not for a long period
 of time).

 I agree.

 > Georg can comment more accurately than I can, but we might ship tor
 0.4.0 with Tor Browser 8.5 since the browser release date will be very
 close to the 0.4.0 stable date.  That means that our users will have to
 live with this bug for 4 months or longer.  Maybe that is okay because
 experts who are called upon to help troubleshoot bootstrap problems can be
 told about this bug, and most users probably do not use a local proxy (in
 which case one can assume that "proxy" must mean "pluggable transport").
 As far as I know, we don't have any hard data about local proxy use
 though.

 While 0.4.x probably won't make it into Tor Browser 8.5 it's very likely
 that one of the point releases could pick up 0.4.x. So, yes, this is
 unfortunate. I am inclined to agree that this bug is not a hard blocker
 for you for 0.4.0, though. If we feel strongly at some point we can just
 stay on 0.3.5.x at least until the bug is fixed in a later stable release.

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