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 ÂÂÂ1. Using your own Relay as Entry Node
 (fr33d0m4all)
 ÂÂÂ2. Re: Using your own Relay as Entry Node
 (Yawning Angel)
 ÂÂÂ3. Re: Using your own Relay as Entry Node
 (Tristan)
 ÂÂÂ4. Re: Using your own Relay as Entry Node
 Â Â Â (starlight.2016q1@xxxxxxxxxxx)
 ÂÂÂ5. Hiding or masking running tor process..
 (rush23@xxxxxxx)
 ÂÂÂ6. Re: Hiding or masking running tor
 process.. (dawuud)
 ÂÂÂ7. Re: Hiding or masking running tor
 process.. (k0nsl)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:38:15 +0000
 From: fr33d0m4all <fr33d0m4all@xxxxxxxxxx>
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [tor-relays] Using your own Relay as Entry Node
 Message-ID: <57100DC7.9080905@xxxxxxxxxx>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Hi,
 I've seen some time ago a discussion about using your own
 Tor Relay as
 an Entry Node, but I'd like to have your opinion in the
 following two
 scenarios (if it makes any difference switching from 1 to
 2):
 
 1) You point at your node when you're in the same network
 where the node
 resides (I mean always by setting EntryNodes in torrc, not
 by using it
 as a SOCKS proxy)
 
 2) You point at your node from a different network than the
 one in which
 the relay is
 
 I think that if your node is being used by others, you would
 simply be
 one of the lots of users passing through it, with the
 advantage of
 removing the risk of a bad Entry node, what do you think
 about that?
 
 And about using it as a SOCKS proxy to enter the Tor
 network? Do the
 same considerations apply or is it even worse to use a relay
 as a SOCKS
 proxy?
 
 I'm sure that I've read about reasons to avoid using your
 own node, but
 I don't remember the considerations about this argument...
 
 Best regards,
 ÂÂÂFr33d0m4All
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 22:24:30 +0000
 From: Yawning Angel <yawning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Using your own Relay as Entry
 Node
 Message-ID: <20160414222430.78b9255e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
 On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:38:15 +0000
 fr33d0m4all <fr33d0m4all@xxxxxxxxxx>
 wrote:
 > And about using it as a SOCKS proxy to enter the Tor
 network? Do the
 > same considerations apply or is it even worse to use a
 relay as a
 > SOCKS proxy?
 
 This is horrible and should *NEVER* be done, assuming any
 network not
 physically controlled by you is between you and the SOCKS
 proxy
 server[0], simply based on the request (and authentication
 if you
 chose to use such things) being in the clear.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 Yawning Angel
 
 [0]: So, SOCKS over an internal network to a VM/magical
 anonymity box
 may be ok (depending on your threat model). SOCKS to a
 VPS somewhere
 is essentially always a bad idea.
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 Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 17:31:13 -0500
 From: Tristan <supersluether@xxxxxxxxx>
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Using your own Relay as Entry
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 Using a relay as a SOCKS proxy is fine for the local
 network, just don't
 open it to the outside world.
 
 Using your relay as an entry uses it as part of the
 circuit.
 
 Using your relay as a local proxy creates a new circuit
 (without using your
 node in the circuit)
 On Apr 14, 2016 5:26 PM, "Yawning Angel" <yawning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 wrote:
 
 > On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:38:15 +0000
 > fr33d0m4all <fr33d0m4all@xxxxxxxxxx>
 wrote:
 > > And about using it as a SOCKS proxy to enter the
 Tor network? Do the
 > > same considerations apply or is it even worse to
 use a relay as a
 > > SOCKS proxy?
 >
 > This is horrible and should *NEVER* be done, assuming
 any network not
 > physically controlled by you is between you and the
 SOCKS proxy
 > server[0], simply based on the request (and
 authentication if you
 > chose to use such things) being in the clear.
 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > --
 > Yawning Angel
 >
 > [0]: So, SOCKS over an internal network to a VM/magical
 anonymity box
 > may be ok (depending on your threat model). SOCKS
 to a VPS somewhere
 > is essentially always a bad idea.
 >
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 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:39:44 -0400
 From: starlight.2016q1@xxxxxxxxxxx
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Using your own Relay as Entry
 Node
 Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20160414213758.04b31638@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
 You may find the information in this ticket
 of interest, particularly the cited comment:
 
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/16824#comment:23
 
 
 
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 Message: 5
 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 07:48:25 +0200
 From: rush23@xxxxxxx
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [tor-relays] Hiding or masking running tor
 process..
 Message-ID: <5D345D5E-316B-4BD9-8B3C-76C50DE7E46E@xxxxxxx>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
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 Hey everybody,
 
 is there any way to hide running a tor process on a
 server??
 My vps hoster monitors which processes consume most of the
 resources, so just hiding would be best especially when it
 looks like a 'not tor' process..?
 
 I appreciate any helpful hints...
 
 Cheers
 0x23
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 Message: 6
 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:36:30 +0000
 From: dawuud <dawuud@xxxxxxxxxx>
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Hiding or masking running tor
 process..
 Message-ID: <20160415093630.GA6712@xxxxxxxxxx>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
 
 
 Dear 0x23,
 
 This is a totally rediculous question... but Oh yes you can
 certainly replace top, ps etc.
 with your own customized versions that exclude the tor
 process. You have root access, yes?
 
 Why would you even want to do this? I don't understand.
 Don't you know that society praises tor relay operators for
 contributing?
 
 Sincerely,
 david
 
 On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 07:48:25AM +0200, rush23@xxxxxxx wrote:
 > Hey everybody,
 > 
 > is there any way to hide running a tor process on a
 server??
 > My vps hoster monitors which processes consume most of
 the resources, so just hiding would be best especially when
 it looks like a 'not tor' process..?
 > 
 > I appreciate any helpful hints...
 > 
 > Cheers
 > 0x23
 > --
 > 
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 Message: 7
 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:58:49 +0200
 From: k0nsl <i.am@xxxxxxxxx>
 To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Hiding or masking running tor
 process..
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 David,
 
 I'm assuming he wants to hide the process due to provider
 killing the 
 tor process. There are hosts whom are using incredibly lame
 methods for 
 detecting the tor process ? so simply renaming it can
 often bypass.
 
 At any rate, if my assumption is correct, well, I don't
 suggest engaging 
 in that practice. It's better to find a host which allows
 one to operate 
 tor.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 -k0nsl
 
 On 2016-04-15 11:36, dawuud wrote:
 > Dear 0x23,
 >
 > This is a totally rediculous question... but Oh yes you
 can certainly replace top, ps etc.
 > with your own customized versions that exclude the tor
 process. You have root access, yes?
 >
 > Why would you even want to do this? I don't
 understand.
 > Don't you know that society praises tor relay operators
 for contributing?
 >
 > Sincerely,
 > david
 >
 > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 07:48:25AM +0200, rush23@xxxxxxx wrote:
 >> Hey everybody,
 >>
 >> is there any way to hide running a tor process on a
 server??
 >> My vps hoster monitors which processes consume most
 of the resources, so just hiding would be best especially
 when it looks like a 'not tor' process..?
 >>
 >> I appreciate any helpful hints...
 >>
 >> Cheers
 >> 0x23
 >> --
 >>
 >> _______________________________________________
 >> tor-relays mailing list
 >> tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
 >>
 >>
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