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Re: [tor-relays] Open call for proposals for improving the health of the Tor relay operator community and the Tor network

The sponsor name, DRL (Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human
Rights, and Labor - US Gov), can be found in the linked milestone 

I found it after sending the question but thanks for elaborating.


a few questions:

- Can you describe the process these proposals will undergo after they got collected?
- Who "approves" / rejects them?
- Will it be a public and transparent process?
- Who will be involved in the process?
- How are relay operators included and to what extend?

- Will "approved" proposals be enforced?
- How will they get enforced? New tor release or directory authority vote?
- Will directory authorities be formally required to enforce "approved" proposals?


Great questions.

- Yes, it will be a public and transparent process;

[...]

Our goal is to build this governance process.


Do you have a timeline for building and defining the governance process
which probably should be the first thing to do
so people can make up their minds on whether they like
the process and want to be involved or not?



Sure, here is the timeline: October 2022 - January 2024

  - We called for proposals from the community (March 3 2023)
  - Work on proposals (TPO) (like meta proposal about the process and
    governance and different stake holders) (March/April)
  - Proposal evaluation (May/July)
  - Events and offline discussions with community (August/September)
  - Approving proposals after feedback from the community and figuring out
    the details of enforcement/adhering to them (September-December)
  - Proposals go live (January 2024)


Based on your answer I got the impression that my question was
slightly misunderstood since you outlined the timeline from the proposals
to the "proposals go live" but my question was specifically about
the definition of the governance process.
According to the order outlined people are expected to submit
proposals before the governance process (the second item in your list looks like it) is defined,
shouldn't it be the other way around?

I think an effort could be made to to answer some more fundamental questions,
like the one I sent previously, found under "a few questions".

I found it surprising to see some of my previous
proposals linked on the slides of the meeting - because tor core people (arma, geko, more?)
have practically rejected them in the past already.

kind regards,
nusenu
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https://nusenu.github.io
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