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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Exit: Complaints of IP being used for "spam" despite exit policy



Hi,

On 2022-05-04 12:31, lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Yes, unfortunately you get this SPAM abuse, although it is clear that the mail
was submitted via a webmailer :-(

Probably true.

Sometimes I think "is my FreeBSD exploited and being used to send spam",
but then I also see Linux relays on other ISPs also on the blocklists.

It's actually very unlikely that a longer running exit can send mails. ;-) I can't even send myself log mails from my exit IP's because all IP's are
blacklisted. On abusix.com and similar.

If you need to send emails, you could:

a. use Sendgrid or Mailgun or whatever to send emails if they don't block exit IPs from connecting to their SMTP relays

b. Run your own SMTP relay on a $3.5 VPS to forward emails

If possible, try to get an ARIN SWIP record:
https://blog.torproject.org/tips-running-exit-node/
5. Get ARIN registration

I could look into that. I do have a LLC that I could use for the SWIP record if needed.

99% of the abuse is f*cking auto-generated stuff from tools like fail2ban. If you reply, you will not get an answer or 'message is undeliverable' back.

Probably true.

Psychz is still more automated but not so much, but I do know some hosts where abuse is very automated to the extent that they ignore automated complaints. Think AWS, Azure, OVH, or DigitalOcean, or a Big Telecom provider like Comcast, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telefonica, etc.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, some hosts such as GTHost and Primcast both asked me to turn off my exit relay due to "too much abuse" because their abuse departments are very manual.

BuyVM is similarly priced (although my Psychz is an special offer) and
solid but has too many exits. OVH and TerraHost only allow exits on much more expensive dedicated servers. Prgmr and HostMaze allow exits but has
so-so peering.
https://rdp.sh/ is not overcrowded yet.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I prefer to run my exits on FreeBSD (well, I am a FreeBSD committer), but I will keep rdp.sh in mind in case I need a new host.

We all hope with you.
As I've mentioned here before, IPv6 only relays are important. An AS with IPv6/48 is affordable. Then it's much easier to set up your own bulletproof
ISP.

That sounds good :-). I'd love to have my own ASN, but don't have the mental or financial bandwidth to do this right now.

Fortunately Psychz got off my case, for now at least :-).

-Neel
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