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Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor



I'll read some documentation about these methods. Are there recommended sources?

Thanks  

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From: Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:31:51 -0600

> On 10/06/2014 04:06 PM, garyr22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Sure, I understand what you mean. I'm assuming a situation that
> > doesn't involve legal issues. This would be illegal surveillance,
> > using average resources with your ISP supporting it for some reason.
> > I think Tor would be able to handle this type surveillance if used
> > correctly.
> > 
> > I would like to know what their procedure would be outside of
> > monitoring ExitNodes. How much effort it would be to examine the
> > packets and get any useful information.
> 
> Tor is vulnerable to two general sorts of attacks. One involves the use
> of malicious relays in various ways to deanonymize circuits. The other
> involves the use of traffic analysis to correlate traffic captured at
> edges of the Tor network (to users and the websites that they access).
> 
> With ISPs, there's the risk that some organization can monitor traffic
> on both ends. It's common to characterize such organizations as "global
> passive adversaries". However, a single ISP (or a firm owning multiple
> ISPs) could do that, if it provides service to both users and websites.
> Also, users who access websites in their own nation via Tor are
> similarly vulnerable to their government.
> 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > -------- Original Message -------- From: Crypto <crypto@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> > Apparently from: tor-talk-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To:
> > tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring
> > tor Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:58:10 -0500
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 10/6/2014 1:51 PM, garyr22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> How difficult would it be for an ISP to monitor your Tor activity
> >>> from the modem and determine what sites you visit?
> >>> 
> >>> I only need to know if it would be very hard, impossible, or very
> >>> possible to do. If it's possible what technique would they use?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Gee... That's a tough question. How hard is it to catch the flu?
> >> How hard is it to get hit by a car? It depends on who your ISP is,
> >> what is specified in their TOS, what monitoring equipment is
> >> located at the particular node they are connected to, what the
> >> courts have authorized them to monitor, how interested they are in
> >> investing the time and money in monitoring you, etc.
> >> 
> >> -- Crypto https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=b90b690ca5bb
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