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Re: gEDA-user: Barrie Gilbert
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 06:55:35AM -0400, Dan McMahill wrote:
> Bob Paddock wrote:
> >On Wednesday 06 September 2006 03:36, Karel Kulhavy wrote:
> >
> >>Anyone knows what exactly is called Gilbert cell?
> >
> >
> >The Gilbert Cell is named after Barrie Gilbert of Analog Devices,
> >invented in 1968.
> >
> >http://www.ieee.org/organizations/pubs/newsletters/sscs/jan03/jssc_classic.html
> >
> >The Gilbert Cell has become common in RF designs, used as a double balanced
> >mixer. It is a four quadrant multiplier. Somewhere in my files I have a
> >paper
> >by Gilbert where he states that he never really meant it to be used the
> >way,
> >that has been the most common usage. He recommended an obscure
> >division technique instead. I'll dig the paper up this evening.
>
> Bonus points to anyone who can name the real inventor of the mixer in
> question here. Hint: It wasn't Gilbert even though it's called a
> Gilbert cell.
>
> >>How many transistors does it actually have?
> >
> >
> >http://rfdesign.com/mag/503rfdf1.pdf
> >
> >
> >>Is it possible to make a well working Gilbert cell with ordinary
> >>non-matched
> >>transistors?
> >>And btw do you know what translinear mean?
> >
> >
> >One set of frequencies is translated linearly to an other set of
> >frequencies.
> >Using non-matched transistors will not be linear, resulting in spurious
> >outputs.
>
> no. That is not what translinear means. Translinear circuits in this
> context refers to the class of circuits where you find a loop consisting
> just of bipolar junctions and have an equal number in each direction.
> The idea is that Ic = Is * exp(Vbe/Vt) where Is depends on the device,
> Vt is the thermal voltage (kT/q), Ic is collector current, and Vbe is
> the base-emitter voltage. If you write out KVL around this loop of
> base-emitter junctions you get:
>
> sum( Vbe_cw ) = sum( Vbe_ccw)
>
> where Vbe_cw = junctions where the voltage is positive in the clockwise
> direction and Vbe_ccw = junctions where the voltage is positive in the
> counter clockwise direction.
>
> Now assume all the Is are the same and some simple math shows that
>
> product( Ic_cw ) = product( Ic_ccw )
Exactly, like MOSFET is a silicon analogue of electron tube,
BJT is a silicon analogue of slide ruler.
>
> For example, you can build a circuit where I1 * I2 = I3 * I4
>
> and you can build a squaring circuit or a square root circuit.
>
> These circuits work on large signals.
What if spurious resistances kick in? Or the signal gets so large
that one transistor heats up? Doesn't it crook then?
CL<
>
> I'll try to find a reference to post tonight and I'll sketch out a more
> concrete example.
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
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