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Re: [gftp] What ails gftp?

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Droshalla wrote:


Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:49:15 +0200
From: Droshalla <droshalla@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [gftp] What ails gftp?

Hello everyone,

having used gftp to some extent now, I wonder what it is that concerns people
most to either not use gftp or look for other clients.

Given the activity of the list, it seems as though people regularly find gftp
in their systems, or bring it there. But at some point, several things seem to
be out of place in such a way that users ask questions here or possibly blog
about it. To me, most talk about gftp (be it the text port or the gtk port)
ends up with a recommendation to use another client, or live with what looks
like the shortcomings of the application itself.

However, I don't believe there is some kind of list where people put together
what is keeping them first and foremost from experiencing gftp as a great tool.
Especially people new to gftp will be of help to find out what the learning
curve is like, or whether the ui is intuitive at all. :-)

I'd really like to see the users describe where the problem is, and this
mailing list looks like it's the right place for it. Perhaps that kind of
information will make it easier on Brian or whoever else is developing gftp
to rework some part of it to better match it's intended purpose. So please
spill some of your frustration you've had with the app and maybe, someday,
someone might fix it. :-)

Droshalla



See mesages below.
gFTP simply no longer worked for me, as described below, and, in the thread at the time, and the suggestions posted to the list, to fix the problem, got no response
So, I was forced to switch to KFTPGrabber, which I now use without any problems. 

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992

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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Bret Busby wrote:


Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:07:44 +0800 (WST)
From: Bret Busby <bret@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gftp] Problem with gftp

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > It is good to know that it's not the fault of gFTP. > > 
Well, I believe that it is not the fault of gftp.

However, there are two different aspects to this.

The first, is that the ISP support person with whom I have been in contact, apparently cannot replicate the problem, yet I have on different Linux
distributions, using different FTP clients (including both Debian Linux and Ubuntu 8.04 - the latest version of Ubuntu).

The second aspect is this; if the problem occurs when using passive mode (well, for me, anyway - the ISP has told me that I am apparently the only customer
with the problem), and is overcome when using Extended Passive Mode, the question then arises; what is the prospect of gftp being enhanced/modified/upgraded
to use Extended Passive Mode? I note that, as I had previously stated, in response to the suggested solution of turning off Passive Mode, as the information
provided by gftp, and, from other sources, advises that Passive Mode is required when an FTP client is behind a firewall, Passive Mode (or, in this case,
Extended Passive Mode) is required to be used.

In searching for Extended Passive Mode, using google, I found the entries at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol (and thence, using the link
for RFC2428, at http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2428 ) , http://www.askdavetaylor.com/why_do_my_ftp_transfers_all_freeze_up.html (which refers to using the
command epsv during an ftp session that involves rejection of Passive Mode (PM); the epsv replacing pasv, in the definition of Extended Passive Mode (EPM)
(the former in EPM, the latter in PM), and http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/rfc/rfc2428.txt , as a couple out of about 6000 results for the search.

Also, http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/ftpext-charter.html

As RFC2428 is dated September 1998, almost ten years ago, and the web page at http://www.gftp.org/ , states that the latest stable version of gftp is "2.0.18
(2/4/2005)", I am wondering whether it might be time for gftp to be updated, to implement Extended Passive Mode (so I can stop having to use KFTPGrabber, and
go back to using gftp, and so that others can avoid the same problem).

I am interested in seeing the response to the second aspect and suggestion.

Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Bret Busby wrote:


Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:54:49 +0800 (WST)
From: Bret Busby <bret@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gftp] multi-threading downloads

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Kristian Davies wrote:

> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:15 +0100
> From: Kristian Davies <kristian.davies@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
> To: gftp-users@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gftp] multi-threading downloads
> > Version: 2.0.17 
> CentOS 4.4
> > I'm having an issue downloading using sftp (in gftp). It's slow. I 
> believe it have something to do with not using multiple threads to
> download as when i use cuteftp in windows i get 10x speed increase.
> > If I had 10 directories to download i could drag each one over and it 
> would start 10 transfers.  But I want it to start 10 transfers even if
> I pull 1 directory down (with many files in).
> > I hope this make sense. > > Any help is much appreiciated. > > Cheers, 
> Kristian
> 
Hello.

I don't know whether they would work with CentOS, but have you looked at kftpgrabber (Homepage: http://www.kftp.org) and lftp (http://lftp.yar.ru/)?

Those are some of the FTP clients that I found in using Synaptic (the Debian Linux GUI package manager), when I searched for ftp client.

I switched to kftpgrabber, when I had my previous problem with gftp and Passive Mode (as I posted to the list).It was the only way that I found to upload
files to my web sites, the hosting of which now requires Extended (?) Passive Mode.

I hope that this helps.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992

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