I moved the work that I am doing to devel to https://wsdo.sao.uwf.edu:444/ .... I figured that with both an .htaccess file and ssl encryption, we shouldn't have any problems with people looking at it (other than us). Once I get all the kinks and so forth worked out of it (such as finish converting all pages), it will be ready for the real devel.linuxkb.org (hopefully by mid-June / early July). Mike