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Re: Status & CVS & objects



Your point?  They are cool - I like them, but you have bunches of peeople
out there that feel accepting a cookie is the equivilent of selling
they're soul.  :)  They're prolly all BSD lovers.

/me dodges the blow from spencer.

Just kiddin.

On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 09:19:58AM -0500, Spencer Portee wrote:
> cookies are cool though
> 
> On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jason Pincin wrote:
> 
> moo> Yeh - we can't require cookies.  crypt is cool - I assume your going to be
> moo> storing passwords via php's crypt() function then?  Cool.
> moo> 
> moo> As far as authentication... cookies are optional.  But we are using httpauth in
> moo> order to have session level authentication.  I want someone to come up with a
> moo> way to do this in php so an auth doesn't take TWO connections to the DB, as now
> moo> it requires one php and one mod_perl. 
> moo> 
> moo> If someone doesn't give it a look soon, maybe I'll give it a gander when I
> moo> impliment the object security which was #2 or 3 on my list...
> moo> 
> moo> What we are making optional with cookies (and thus you should account for on
> moo> signup) is:  if the user chooses to accept an account cookie - they won't have
> moo> to login every time they return to the site to restore there preferences.  
> moo> 
> moo> While I'm thinking of it - I think we should make this option only valid for
> moo> standard-security users.  Run of the mill who just want to customize the things
> moo> available to them, but don't want a login prompt with every visit.  Then, we can
> moo> either store there site passwd as a cookie, or some kinda checksum or sumthin,
> moo> and have them auto-auth when they visit - or sore they're site preferences as
> moo> cookies... nah... the checksum or sumthin would werk better.
> moo> 
> moo> At any rate - my point is - this should be disabled for users with advanced
> moo> privleges.  People with admin access to branches of the tree should not be
> moo> allowed to store auth cookies methinks.  Someone finds out, walks up to there
> moo> browser, and voila - hoses our tree.
> moo> 
> moo> Thoughts?
> moo> 
> moo> Jason
> moo> 
> moo> 
> moo> On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 12:09:41AM -0800, Micah K Yoder wrote:
> moo> > ok..........
> moo> > 
> moo> > am ready to test my attempt at getting signup.php3 working with the
> moo> > object system, but....
> moo> > 
> moo> > the CVS permissions really do need to be fixed.  CVS aborts before it
> moo> > gets to users.  when I checkout, I can do cvs co main/users but
> moo> > webupdate main doesn't allow that.
> moo> > 
> moo> > when I hit http://dev.linuxkb.org:81/users/tools/signup.php3 I get a 404
> moo> > Not Found.  Why am I not even getting the *old* signup.php3?  It used to
> moo> > be there...
> moo> > 
> moo> > Passwords... Aaron, you might want to do what you need to do to switch
> moo> > over to crypt() for authentication, cause that's how it's gonna work! 
> moo> > :-)
> moo> > 
> moo> > Speaking of authentication, there's another way that we use at work, but
> moo> > it REQUIRES cookies (at least temporary ones).  It's somewhat slick, but
> moo> > I guess the required cookies make it out of the question...???  It
> moo> > involves getting an md5() hash of the username, time logged in, and
> moo> > maybe something else... I'd have to check...  and storing it in a
> moo> > database table.
> moo> 
> moo> -- 
> moo> Jason
> moo> http://vodka.linuxkb.org/~chardros
> moo> 

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Jason
http://vodka.linuxkb.org/~chardros