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Re: [tor-bugs] #4583 [Tor Bridge]: Obfuscate the default certificate validity times (was: Implement certificate start time fuzzing (part of proposal 179))

#4583: Obfuscate the default certificate validity times
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 Reporter:  asn         |          Owner:              
     Type:  defect      |         Status:  needs_review
 Priority:  normal      |      Milestone:              
Component:  Tor Bridge  |        Version:              
 Keywords:              |         Parent:  #3972       
   Points:              |   Actualpoints:              
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Comment(by asn):

 Replying to [comment:2 nickm]:
 > Hm.  The right fix here is to actually use the cert for a long time, not
 just to claim that we're using it for a long time.  This fix doesn't help
 so much if we're going to keep rotating our initially presented CA certs
 so often.
 >

 Makes sense.
 (When we roll out user-defined certificates (CA-signed or not) we should
 probably start respecting their validity dates and stop trying to act
 smart with advertised and internal certificate validities.)

 >
 > Also, using "exactly 365*24*60*60 seconds" as our idea of the length of
 a year probably is more fingerprintable than rotating our certs too often.
 When actual CAs sell certs, I believe they don't do it like that.  Some of
 them do stuff more along the times of timegm/gmtime manipulation -- some
 so that notBefore is at 00:00:00 GMT and notAfter is 23:59:59 GMT.

 Right.

 >We should probably see what openssl self-signed certs tend to have in
 this regard.

 Hm, it seems like the default '-days' argument of req(1SSL) and x509(1SSL)
 is '30', for thirty days of duration.
 I'm not sure how HTTPS server operators who use self-signed certificates
 generate them, and whether Apache provides them with a custom generation
 script with a custom certificate duration.

 We probably need to dive into the SSL observatory and look for self-signed
 certificate durations.

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