Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 222: Stop sending client timestamps

[Nick Mathewson <nickm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:33 PM, George Kadianakis
<desnacked@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 [...]
>> 2.2. AUTHENTICATE (server)
>>
>>    The AUTHENTICATE cell is not ordinarily sent by clients. It
>>    contains an 8-byte timestamp and a 16-byte random value.
>>    Instead, let's replace both with a 24-byte (truncated) HMAC of
>>    the current time, using a random key.
>>
>>    This will achieve the goal of including a timestamp in the
>>    cell (preventing replays even in the presence of bad entropy),
>>    while at the same time not including the time here.
>>
>
> Hey Nick,
>
> how does the client verify the contents of the AUTHENTICATE cell
> (including the timestamp), if the timestamp is encrypted with a random
> key?

Two points and a real answer.  The two points first:

* The authenticate cell is sent from a server initiator to a server
responder.  Clients never get them, and never verify them.

* HMAC isn't encryption. :)

The real answer:

* The contents of the timestamp are never actually checked; the
protocol only includes a timestamp there in a voodoo-like imitation of
the ClientRandom field.  The requirement is that there be _something_
in this position, and that the entire AUTHENTICATE cell be correctly
signed.

-- 
Nick
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