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[tor-dev] Re: Selene: Tor-based p2p chat with RSA-8192 + AES-256 (not a browser)
- To: Dharma Mati <alamahant@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [tor-dev] Re: Selene: Tor-based p2p chat with RSA-8192 + AES-256 (not a browser)
- From: Paul Syverson via tor-dev <tor-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 08:14:04 -0400
- Cc: tor-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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- Reply-to: Paul Syverson <aslovensyrup@xxxxxxxxx>
Given the various other messaging tools out there that share your
basic design (e.g. everybody uses their own onion address,
cf. https://onionservices.torproject.org/apps/messaging/ ), could
you say if there is anything in particular you are trying to
accomplish with Selene different from those, other than to do it
"because it is there"?
Si sanus es, sanus sum,
Paul
On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 08:44:12PM +0300, Dharma Mati via tor-dev wrote:
> Hello tor-dev,I'm the developer of Selene - a Tor-based peer-to-peer
> chat and file sharing application.What Selene is:- A chat app where
> each instance generates its own onion address- Peers share addresses
> with each other directly (no public discovery)- Files are shared as
> HTTP servers between confirmed contacts only- Built-in OBFS4 and
> WebTunnel bridge supportWhat Selene is NOT:- A Tor browser. You cannot
> browse .onion sites.- A gateway to the darknet. There is no public
> discovery of anything.- A general-purpose anonymity tool. It's just
> for private chat between people who already know each other.Encryption
> - and this matters:On top of Tor's end-to-end anonymity (everything
> stays inside the Tor network, never leaving it), Selene adds its own
> application-layer encryption:- Messages: RSA encryption
> (user-configurable up to 8192 bits)- Files: AES-256 encryptionSo even
> if someone were to compromise the Tor hidden service connection, the
> data itself remains encrypted with Selene's own keys. Defense in
> depth.Why I built it:I needed a p2p chat app that doesn't require
> opening ports on routers or corporate firewalls. Privacy and
> encryption came after solving that core need.Current availability:-
> Flathub: https://flathub.org/en/apps/io.github.alamahant.Selene- Arch
> Linux AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/selene-p2p- Gentoo
> overlay: https://github.com/alamahant/alamahant-overlay/tree/master/net-p2p/selene-
> GitHub: https://github.com/alamahant/SeleneWhat I'm asking:I'm not
> requesting formal endorsement. I would simply appreciate it if someone
> on the team could take a look. If you find it useful, consideration
> for inclusion in the Tor Browser User Manual or community resources
> would mean a lot.I'm posting here at Gus's suggestion after reaching
> out to frontdesk.Thank you for Tor - I couldn't have built this
> without it.With respect,Alamahant
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