Re: [tor-dev] obfs4 questions

[Michael Rogers <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On 29/11/14 00:35, Yawning Angel wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:57:26 +0000 Michael Rogers
> <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On 28/11/14 15:50, Yawning Angel wrote:
>>> A one time poly1305 key is calculated for each box, based on
>>> 32 bytes of zeroes encrypted with a one time Salsa20
>>> key/counter derived from the nonce and the box key.  You can
>>> view the use of Salsa20 there as an arbitrary keyed hash
>>> function (in the case of the original paper, AES was used).
>>> 
>>> Hope that clarifies things somewhat,
>> 
>> Thanks - this is similar to the argument I came up with. I called
>> my argument hand-wavy because it relies on HSalsa20 and Salsa20
>> being PRFs, and I don't know how big an assumption that is.
> 
> For what it's worth "7 Nonce and stream" both support using a
> counter here as the nonce, and refers to 'The standard ("PRF")
> security conjecture for Salsa20".  IIRC the security proof for the
> extended nonce variants also hinges on the underlying algorithms
> being PRFs as well, so it's something I'm comfortable in assuming.
> 
> http://cr.yp.to/highspeed/naclcrypto-20090310.pdf

Awesome, thanks!

Cheers,
Michael

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