On 2 Oct 2015, at 14:43, Tom van der Woerdt < info@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Tim, Thanks for your great comments, very much appreciated! Comments inline. Op 30/09/15 om 19:40 schreef Tim Wilson-Brown - teor:
On 30 Sep 2015, at 17:27, Tom van der Woerdt <info@xxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
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Filename: xxx-intro-rendezvous-controlsocket.txt Title: Load-balancing hidden services by splitting introduction from rendezvous Author: Tom van der Woerdt Created: 2015-09-30 Status: draft
1. Overview and motivation
To address scaling concerns with the onion web, we want to be able to spread the load of hidden services across multiple machines. OnionBalance is a great stab at this, and it can currently give us 60x the capacity by publishing 6 separate descriptors, each with 10 introduction points, but more is better. This proposal aims to address hidden service scaling up to a point where we can handle millions of concurrent connections.
The basic idea involves splitting the 'introduce' from the 'rendezvous', in the tor implementation, and adding new events and commands to the control specification to allow intercepting introductions and transmitting them to different nodes, which will then take care of the actual rendezvous. …
In general, I’m concerned that we need to think through the implementation of this proposal more carefully, because it will help us decide whether it’s compatible with: * Current Hidden Services * Next-Generation Hidden Services And perhaps make changes to any of these proposals to make them work together.
Thoughts welcome! I don't think I'm the right person to address those. I’d also note that it’s definitely not compatible with Single Onion Services as specified in Proposal #252, as there is no rendezvous in that protocol.
Indeed.
Splitting the introduction and rendezvous is another use case for NAT-punching single-rendezvous-hop onion services.
However, splitting hidden services into multiple different implementations provides less cover for users who really need three-hop hidden services. We’ll need to decide what the tradeoff is here.
Tim
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