Hi Paul! tbh I don't know how to answer your question. From my point of view I think it should be fine. I don't know if anyone here has a different opinion tho. Either way, I emailed tor-project for a reason, because I thought it's a public conversation. :) On 04/29/2016 11:24 AM, Paul Syverson wrote: > Hi Isa, > > Roger, David, and I have just concluded the latest Sponsor R meeting. > As Roger and David can tell you, the technical SETA [0] for this > program, Brian Sandberg, has been excited about some related ideas. > In particular he's been writing scripts to develop analysis of > correlation between fraction of Tor usage in countries and ratings > of those countries as free or non-free etc., plus looking > at various events such as you describe. > We were helping him and when some of his numbers looked funny, as a > side benefit this led David earlier this week to uncover and fix some > bugs in metrics. > > Anyway, would you be OK if I just forwarded your message to him? > Or if not simply forwarding, could you give me a message you would > be happy for me to forward? (Or tell me if you just aren't sure > what you want shared and so will get back to me about this at > some future date.) If you say OK, I'll cc tor-project on the forward. > > aloha, > Paul > > > [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_Engineering_and_Technical_Assistance > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:14:11AM -0700, isabela wrote: >> hello tor, >> >> yep, that's right :) I spent some time with our sponsors last week and >> at the end of the day, the question of 'how to measure tor's impact in >> the world' seems to be something that would be useful for us for things >> like: >> >> 1. grant proposal - impacts we could demonstrate >> 2. reports to sponsors - as a metric we could report >> 3. in general when we talk with people (journalists, users etc) >> >> So I thought of the following question: 'What happens to the tor network >> when there is an event happening in the world?' >> >> Is an easy way to do as an one off but super hard if you want to keep >> track of it so you can build stories around more than one event here and >> there. >> >> Then I thought of what world events are predicable that we could check >> for Tor's impact? elections... >> >> So I looked at all elections for Q1 2016, then looked at the number of >> direct connected users and number of users connected via bridges during >> those events... >> >> There were some correlation of events, you can check them here: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKntWAoZOcRB8rBbxl3P-VKAvyH8jf0RmqlsB2lejyU/edit# >> >> Of course we should also take a look for the same thing when >> unpredictable events happens.. like the Egyptian revolution or a >> shutdown of services for whatever reason (whatsapp in Brazil). >> >> Why I am sharing this? Because there are tons of smart people in this >> list and maybe someone has a different way to measure tor's impact in >> the world. >> >> Or maybe someone knows how I could automate such a thing :) (api somewhere?) >> >> Or maybe ideas of other points of data for reference. For instance, I am >> now thinking if x users connected on Tor means a lot or a little in a >> country.. that will depend on how many people are online, the number of >> internet penetration for that country. >> >> Yes, I know this is very simplistic way of talking about something as >> big as 'impact in the world'. But I have seem this information being >> useful in other scenario, and it did helped a lot to pass the message of >> what value people should think of when thinking of the product. >> >> For a long time twitter had the problem of being seeing only as a short >> text social media platform. But twitter wanted people to think of it as >> 'the platform to know what is happening now'. A platform where if an >> event happened in the world, twitter was the place where people would >> talk about it. And for a while the data science team did only this, >> publish correlation data of what happened at twitter during global >> events. I believe it did worked because that information was what people >> (media, mouth to mouth etc) start to pick up when anyone would talk >> about twitter. >> >> here is an example of the work twitter did that i am talking about: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SybWjN9pKQk >> >> cheers, >> Isabela >> >> -- >> PM at TorProject.org >> gpg fingerprint = 8F2A F9B6 D4A1 4D03 FDF1 B298 3224 4994 1506 4C7B >> @isa >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-project mailing list >> tor-project@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-project > _______________________________________________ > tor-project mailing list > tor-project@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-project -- PM at TorProject.org gpg fingerprint = 8F2A F9B6 D4A1 4D03 FDF1 B298 3224 4994 1506 4C7B @isa
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