Hi, > > On 4/6/18 8:10 AM, Vasilis wrote: > > Hi ilv, > > > > ilv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: > > > >> I want to propose the idea of having localized mailing lists. It is obvious > >> that there is a language barrier for users, volunteers and new contributors > >> that don't handle english very well or at all. Yes, you could say that having > >> yet another mailing list won't help, but I would argue that for non-english > >> speakers might be a space for discussion and communication that you might not > >> find in lists such as tor-talk, tor-dev or tor-project. > > Thank you Israel for organizing this proposal :) I think we are growing > and we are seeing the need more and more. This has been discussed a few > times (we were together on the discussion) where we thought we needed to > be more mobilized as Tor and have more people involved to open one lang > specific list and I think we are now, at least with Spanish :) > > I would say that this should be created on the need basis, as you are > doing. So folks don't feel we have to go and open a list for every > language on the planet at this right moment ;) > Yes, I agree :) I think there is a critical mass for other languages as well but we should go with the need basis. > > > >> Mailing lists in plural sounds scary so I propose to start with the following: > >> > >> Name: tor-lang-es@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (according to #15140 [0] the main issue > >> in the past was the name). > >> > >> Purpose: General discussion in Spanish, including announcements, user > >> questions and technical discussion. > > Do you think that including discussion in Portuguese will make sense? > I would not include PT - not that people don't like each other :) but I > think PT will have a critical mass of its own and soon could open it's > own lang list for discussion in PT. > I also agree on this, PT has it mass on its own. > >> For what I have seen and heard of events in Latin America I think there is > >> enough "critical mass" to consider this. And if we do, there is a good chance > >> this community gets more cohesion and grow. > > What if we use the global-south mailing list? > > I agree with Israel on the critical mass. As I said above, I remember > the meeting in Montreal and the idea of the global-south list was more > to kick off the initiative but we knew the need for language specific > lists existed but was waiting to build the critical mass around it. > Which we have done a great job so far :) that is why we are now ready > for ES list! \o/ viva > > > From what I know there are already a lot of people from LATAM there and many > > discussions take place in Portuñol > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portu%C3%B1ol), this way we are not going to lose > > people in the process of moving/migrating to another mailing list. > I would not worry about the migration of folks, we can send an email to > the global south list letting people know and also reminders whenever > its appropriated, like in a reply to a new person writing to > global-south in Spanish. > I wouldn't want LATAM to "take over" the global south list. IMO it has a different purpose and we would be excluding existing members and newcomers from other places (i.e. India). Saludos. --i
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