(nb: None of this is directed at the person I'm replying to, or anyone in particular. It's more a general rant, filled with hyperbole and general jaded weariness, that should be ignored.) On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 00:55:30 +0200 Moritz Bartl <moritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Like I said dozens of times, it is about _reacting_ to the mails that > come in. I do not understand what is so hard about sending people a > friendly auto-reply, letting them know that their emails have in fact > arrived, that this is a volunteer activity, and that we will > eventually get back to them and get them a shirt. That's all that > most people demand. It could also be stated on the website. Which by > the way still refers to Tor Weather, which is defunct and offline. > https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/tshirt.html Practically speaking it's yet another thing that is "simple" to do technically, that doesn't have anyone to do it. Where does tshirt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx go to right now? > It is really tiring to explain this over and over again whenever > someone asks: Yes, it's a volunteer thing, yes, someone will > eventually answer your mail, it is not going to a black hole, yes, > Tor Weather is dead and yes, we know about it but still nobody > bothered to update the references. > > And, just in case people haven't noticed, most threads on tor-relays > and tor-talk do not see replies from Tor core members any more, which > is a shame. FWIW, I try to reply to things on tor-relays@ when I can contribute usefully. Likewise tor-dev@, likewise this list, likewise any other list that I'm subscribed to, or trac. I have no concrete understanding of how t-shirts work, so I don't normally reply to such things. ISTR something about a more moderated tor-talk@ list, that may draw more people to participate again. I guess with random drama recently[0] that got abandoned. Skimming the archives for this month, it's not something I personally want to be subscribed to[1]. > That particular thread that Sebastian refers to has been > there with many people wondering for way too long now without being > answered. The initial thread was reasonable and if I had known how the t-shirt process worked, I would have replied. The latter half of said thread just makes me depressed, and want to unsubscribe from the list. The problem I'm *personally* having with community interaction lately is that, generally speaking I have a finite amount of mental bandwidth available during any given time period. Replying to mailing list threads (a non-trivial fraction of which slowly chip away at whatever minscule faith in humanity I have left) is in direct competition for said mental bandwidth with things like "doing developer stuff". Regards, -- Yawning Angel [0]: ... That I'm explicitly trying to avoid. [1]: I'd even still help moderate that, since at least my suffering would be making the world a better place, rather than just slowing driving me more insane with no net benefit.
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