Re: [tor-relays] switching between exit and guard

[Markus Koch <niftybunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bad! I tried to run a relay with my german dsl isp (new ip every 24 hours) and tor didnt like it at all. I think vpn providers are more used to abuse than vps providers. I dont think digital ccean has many vps instances where people try to hack into banks ...

Markus


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> On 27 Jul 2016, at 12:06, Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 07/27/2016 02:30 AM, Markus Koch wrote:
>> I am all in for a "hide the exit node with a VPN" solution. But pls
>> make it dummy proof for people like me :)
> 
> It's not such a great solution. The VPN service will get complaints,
> instead of the VPS host. And so you'll lose the VPN account. Maybe
> that's easier to fix than configuring a new VPS. But I don't know how
> Tor network handles relays with changing IPs.
> 
>> Markus
>> 
>> 
>> 2016-07-27 9:16 GMT+02:00 Dr Gerard Bulger <gerard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> I have turned off all exits after worried ISP was forwarding too many abuse notices.  This is pending a solution which, if possible would send all exiting port data off to a local anonymous proxy or VPN server.
>>> 
>>> Anonymous proxies and VPN servers seem more impervious or tolerant to abuse notices than the ISPs.
>>> 
>>> A mod I would like to see is to have a facility to send the all the data on ports that are set to exit off to an external anonymous proxy server; https and/or socks.   Currently the httpproxy command in torrc does not do that.
>>> 
>>> I have tried to get my VPS, which has a second IP, to connect to a VPN server on that second IP for Tor to use for exit.  This is beyond my networking skills and attempts cuts off the branch I am sitting on, with mucked up routing for everything.
> 
> I'm not entirely sure what's happening for you. But it may be that you
> need to add a route exception to the config file for the VPN client:
> 
> route w.x.y.z 255.255.255.255 net_gateway
> 
> Where w.x.y.z is the the public IP address of the device that you're
> connecting to the VPS from. That's because VPN services typically
> configure clients to route everything through the VPN.
> 
> If you SSH through Tor, you'll need to set a specific exit. Or instead,
> create an SSH onion service in the VPS.
> 
>>> Anonymous VPNs and http proxies I have used are very cheap with no data caps and very fast.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Markus Koch
>>> Sent: 27 July 2016 07:25
>>> To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] switching between exit and guard
>>> 
>>> I do not think they will kick you or change policy now, I am just out of luck with one of my exit nodes. Lots and lots of script kiddies trying to hack banks and other websites over my exit node ... I have no clue why one exit node attract them and others dont ... bad luck perhaps ...
>>> 
>>> 2016-07-27 0:43 GMT+02:00 Tristan <supersluether@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> Oh dear, I'll take this as a warning since I just spun up a Tor
>>>> droplet with DO not too long ago.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016 4:48 PM, "Markus Koch" <niftybunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> 
>>>>> now I am getting abuse mails nearly every day and digital ocean looks
>>>>> like getting pissed off. Is it technical possible to switch between
>>>>> exit and guard so I only run an exit for 14 days a months (less abuse
>>>>> mails per month if it is a exit only 14 days). Or is this a really
>>>>> bad idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Markus
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS: I am also getting my first bullet proof exit note tomorrow ...
>>>>> lets see how this works out ...
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