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Re: [tor-talk] Thunderbird, GMail and Tor - is it safe?



On 8/9/2011 10:03 AM, Phillip wrote:
Hi,

My question is about the safety of using Thunderbird to send e-mail
through Tor.

A little background: I run a moderate capacity (~500-600 kb/s) Tor
relay. I've configured my Thunderbird client to use the Tor network, as
well as to not leak DNS resolves, and I've verified through test e-mails
that they are being sent to the GMail server through a Tor exit node. My
accounts are configured to use SSL/TLS for both IMAP and SMTP.

I understand that once e-mail leaves the GMail servers, it's about as
secure as sending an open post card.

My question is whether the SSL/TLS connections between my e-mail client
and the GMail server are being made through the Tor network, and whether
using Tor in such a way exposes my otherwise unencrypted e-mail to a
greater risk of being skimmed by, say, a potentially hostile Tor exit node?

My goal is simply to anonymise my IP, which gets leaked gratuitously by
Thunderbird, and to ensure that the e-mail gets to the GMail server as
securely as if I was using the https web mail.

Thanks in advance for any assistance!

Cheers,

Phillip
As I understand it, just sending unencrypted mail to an email provider thru Tor, only masks your true IP address. This assumes you've set up an acct w/ provider, WHILE USING TOR. Once it hits (Gmail & many others') servers, they're going to scan unencrypted mail, as well as mail sent to you. If your received mail is unencrypted, providers will scan that.

You can use HTTPS connection & Tor to Gmail, which will hide your IP, provide protection * between you & Gmail,* but if unencrypted, won't keep them from scanning it.

Yes, I believe an exit node could scan unencrypted mail. I'm not sure about when you use SSL between you & final destination. Others can chime in (please correct any mistakes here). Generally, it's not suggested to send sensitive, unencrypted info thru Tor when using plain HTTP connection w/ a site.

One solution for you might be to use the popular "Enigmail" Tbird addon (from AMO's site) to encrypt mail. You can read up on it at AMO & Enigmail's home page - what's involved for you & recipients of your mail. It's not that difficult.
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