Re: [tor-talk] Reliable server hosting company for Tor exits?

[Robin Kipp <mlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Roger,
thanks a lot for explaining this once again and also for the link! Admittedly, I kind of like the sense of sarcasm about blacklists that you put into this message :-)
Robin

Am 22.08.2012 um 22:36 schrieb Roger Dingledine <arma@xxxxxxx>:

> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:37:16PM +0200, Rejo Zenger wrote:
>> On 22 aug. 2012, at 16:07, Robin Kipp wrote:
>>> I've already been running a Tor relay on that for quite a while,
>>> but sadly had to find out that the server's IP subsequently got added
>>> to several EMail blacklists - despite the server only being a relay and
>>> not an actual exit node!
>> 
>> This is interesting. Did they provide any explanation for this? 
>> 
>> Your root server, did they have access to the server as well? How did
>> they know you were running a relay, other than looking on your server
>> for a Tor process, or looking into your traffic? What problem did they
>> try to solve by adding your server on a blacklist?
> 
> Tor relays (regardless of exit policy) are listed in the Tor consensus,
> which is public -- it has to be so clients can get the list.
> 
> As for the problem the blacklisters were trying to solve, at best
> they were thinking "I want to block Tor, I'll scrape this page I found
> and block all the IPs in it." At worst, they were taking the path all
> blacklists eventually take, of "I will punish everything associated with
> this thing I hate, in hopes that it will die or at least its neighbors
> will pressure it."
> 
> See the link at the bottom of
> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#TypicalAbuses
> for a fun read.
> 
> --Roger
> 
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