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Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Paul Syverson
<paul.syverson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> We came up ourselves with potential application suggestions such as
> open source intelligence gathering or "phoning home" as you put it.
> We also came up with other ideas (some good, some bad) and also talked
> to people about how it might be useful.  As another example that I
> remember from an early briefing slide: We knew about the 1991 pentagon
> pizza channel
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/war_and_pizza.htm
> and we speculated that maybe in the future people would even be doing
> incredible stuff like ordering food online (The Web was only two years
> old at that point.)  We had a picture where the ordering
> information went over the Web from the Pentagon to Domino's and was
> routed by an enemy (Iraq at the time of the putative pizza channel
> concern). I remember a point I would make during presentations was
> that the enemy could see the number of orders made by people at the
> Pentagon to Domino's even if he couldn't break the encryption to know
> if they were for pepperoni or extra cheese.  (And this was years
> before ShmooCon 2005 when Nick Mathewson uttered the immortal line:
> "Look. Dan Kaminsky has just fit an entire meat-lover's pizza inside a
> DNS request.")

Pizza is a real problem:


Coffee too!
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