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Re: [tor-talk] Off topic- Android is suspect spyware?

On 12/10/2014 22:54, Jon Tullett wrote:
Yes. Get a forked device, like an Amazon Kindle Fire - such vendors
replace much of the Google software, often including the default app
store, with their own. But if you trust the third party more than
Google, your paranoia is broken.

Spyware can be embedded in hardware itself.
This isn't about Android, but some desktop network cards are able to manage TCP connections even without any operating system present:

AMT can accept TCP connections, and also potentially can initiate connections, and transfer information from your computer out to whoever it is hardwired to.

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