On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:03:58AM -0500, andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:21:22PM -0800, travis+ml-tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote 15K bytes in 259 lines about: > There has been much discussion over a combined tor and polipo package, > as well as a vidalia-tor-polipo package for deb-based systems. Well, I just saw the vidalia ubuntu packages lately, and I think I'll make it a recommended package for my polipo-tor package, since vidalia doesn't seem apropos for headless servers, for example (I could be wrong; only installed it recently). > The core issue is that packages should not overwrite other packages > config files. I don't; I just installed to parallel files such as /etc/polipo-tor. In other words, it installs polipo, tor, and a bunch of other dependencies, and then installs a parallel set of config files, /var/run pid files, and log files so that it doesn't interfere with the installed polipo. It also runs on a different port (8118 instead of polipo's default of 8123). To make it ridiculously easy for people, I created my own repo here: http://www.subspacefield.org/packages/ubuntu/ Just follow the instructions, sudo aptitude install polipo-tor, install torbutton (or whatever), and go. Should take all of one minute to get up and running. > We've generally assumed (wrongly) that linux users > understand their system and can handle manual configuration of a few > packages, such as tor, polipo, and vidalia. The general answer for > users who just want a tor client is to use the tor browser bundle. I understand; I'm old school, I used to track all third-party sources via CVS, but it just doesn't scale very well. Nowadays if it's not in a repo, it doesn't exist for most people - it's beyond their level of interest. I understand both points of view. > The real answer is to fix firefox so it doesn't need a proxy between it > and Tor. We patch firefox to do just this in the osx and linux tor > browser bundles. Polipo was a fine kludge until either we started > patching firefox or mozilla fixed their many-years-old socks bug. Hmm, I had no idea this was even available for Linux. It looks like a tarball - it's unclear how this will interact with a package manager, which likes to know which packages installed which files, and updates them automatically, etc. > The great thing about free software is that you're welcome to do just > what you're doing. You don't like the situation, so you solve it. > Great. Thanks. ;-) I believe in do-ocracy. So, now I've brought the level of effort down to one minute or less, and the level of thought down to something you can do while drunk and sleep-deprived, since there's no decisions required. So how do I make people aware of the option? -- Effing the ineffable since 1997. | http://www.subspacefield.org/~travis/ My emails do not usually have attachments; it's a digital signature that your mail program doesn't understand. If you are a spammer, please email john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to get blacklisted.
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