Re: [tor-talk] NSA, Tempora, PRISM And Company always know who is behind Tor?

[Ed Fletcher <ed@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 18/07/2013 10:26 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:31:21PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote:
> > > > They know the real IP of every Tor user every time they use
> > > > Tor?
> > >
> > > Probably not.
> >
> > Why not? Don't they monitor enough internet traffic to know what
> > the users are doing? Don't all ISPs either work for  the NSA, or
> > let the NSA monitor all their traffic?
>
> Again, probably not?
>
> They for sure do not have a deal with every ISP.
>
> The question is whether they have enough deals with the *right* ISPs
> to be able to see enough Tor traffic to have a good chance of
> breaking some Tor circuits.

On a related note, does having (what I assume is) a serious percentage 
of the Tor relays in the Amazon cloud make it easier for the NSA to 
compromise anonymity?

Ed
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