Re: [tor-talk] FBI cracked Tor security

[Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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On 07/18/2016 07:14 PM, Jon Tullett wrote:
> On 18 July 2016 at 18:15, Spencer <spencerone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> 
>>> Jon Tullett: you just asked a user to conduct a risk analysis.
>>> 
>> 
>> Who else should do it, someone less contextualized to their
>> context?
> 
> Context matters. Mirimir was asking for what amounts to a very
> complex assessment measuring risk in monetary terms. Anyone who can
> do that reliably can get a very high paid job doing so. It's really
> not trivial.

I used money because it makes it real. Most people simply can't afford
to defend themselves. May I should find some examples.

> Absolutely individuals should conduct their own risk assessments.
> But not in those terms. For most consumers, security is not about
> money. Going to jail is about freedom and personal safety, not
> cash.

Ask someone who's been arrested ;)

> Even losing data is a balance between losing work (money) and
> personal items (sentimental value, not money).

How did losing data get into this? Maybe having computer gear
impounded? Or neglecting backups?

> Understanding your risk profile, for most people, actually has 
> relatively little to do with money

You can measure it however you like. The point is that, unless
prompted, people tend to discount risk.

> (though "losing all my money to phishing" is absolutely a risk to
> be considered).

Phishing is arguably no worse a risk for Tor users.

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