Re: [tor-talk] EU Intel Property Office Report Hates on Tor, Bitcoin, Bittorrent, Goods Pirates and Models

[Friet Pan <frietpan@xxxxxxxxx>]

@ flipchan

It's a bit like radio but without bribing the radio host to play certain music and ignore other music.

By bittorrent gives access to all music to everyone worldwide, without the interference of bribed radiohosts.


Everyone can then try whatever music they come across, and once they like it, then they go google who made it, become a fan, buy a CD, buy merchandise, go to concerts, use the music in youtube video's (and promote the music FOR FREE), more people like the music, and the artist sell more music.



@ conrad

It's good that they did not dive in with mp3. Afterall that opened up the path to more innovative technology. And that enabled the music industry to make even more money, since that technology is being used in their recording studio's. 




Maybe bittorrent sites should listen to the music industry and ban all music that comes from the industry, and only host music that is not affiliated with any record label. (Music from free musicians)


Then wait how long it takes until they start to ask themselves if this is really what they wanted.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  Time will tell.  I have a feeling that says that will come back to that decision.

The industries, business model just does not include all possible modern technologies, it is extremely limited to technologies that are "proven trough time" And they are so large and slow that they cant react at the pace this world is moving.    


A flock os starlings can move direction in a split second without any damage, a dinosaur will be missing the corner, and things will break.




----- Original Message -----
From: Flipchan <flipchan@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] EU Intel Property Office Report Hates on Tor, Bitcoin,	Bittorrent, Goods Pirates and Models

I think its great that u can download it, and if u like it u will/can buy it :)

Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad.rockenhaus@xxxxxxxxxx> skrev: (26 juli 2016 22:47:43 CEST)
>Just a short answer to your rant  - you are correct about the embrace
>of 
>mp3.  Had they done it sooner, they would of banked in quite a bit of 
>money.
>
>Regards,
>
>Conrad Rockenhaus
>
>On 2016-07-25 09:44, Friet Pan wrote:
>> Sounds a bit like the war on drugs.
>> 
>> They refuse to look at the cause of the problem, but jump around the
>> effect like their pants are on fire.
>> 
>> oooo the effect is sooooooooo scary, but refuse to see that THEY are
>> the ones who caused it.
>> 
>> In case of the music industry, they ignored MP3, then they ignored,
>> napster and co. then they sued napster when the damage was done and
>> out of control.
>> 
>> 
>> If they had embraced MP3 in the very beginning, and had ran their own
>> donwload sites at fair prices, then there would not have been a need
>> for pirates, it wouldn't even make sense.
>> 
>> But the music industry is greedy, and always wants MORE profit, so
>> they make stuff artificially expensive and then moan that people give
>> copies to their friends. I have an insane record collection, and when
>> i download a track that i already own on Vinyl, on CD, or on BOTH,
>> then they still want MORE money, i already paid the damn thing TWICE,
>> so why is it a problem to download it?. Is it illegal? NO. Then why
>> moan about it?
>> And if there is no money in making music, then why do studio's still
>> record music?, Why do record labels still produce music? If there was
>> no profit then there would be no product. They still make music, and
>> still make a living.  And now people try before they buy, they
>> download, and find new music that the industry does not promote on
>the
>> radio. And more artist make a chance to make money, all over the
>> world, not in a small region.
>> 
>> So that part is one big lie. Torrents do more music promotion then
>> what radio ever accomplished.
>> 
>> 
>> But thats off topic i guess...  I had to say something about it. It's
>> just silly.
>> 
>> 
>> If you want fame in the 21th century, then make sure you have a
>> torrent available. And you can make yourself more popular then
>> 21thcentury fox can do for you with all the money in the world.
>> 
>> And for TAX it doesn't matter, Servers make TAX, advertisment makes
>> TAX, Concerts make TAX, more then ever before.
>> 
>> I'm not promoting piracy, i'm only saying that the music industy is
>> barking up the wrong tree, torrents SELL MUSIC and without the need
>of
>> bribing corrupt radio hosts.. It's cheaper then radio.
>> 
>> The other topic have similar answers, movie industry is a bit
>> different, buy they could have used torrent as a distribution
>> mechanism, and made money without expensive servers and datapipes.
>> 
>> It's their own mistake, and now they need someone to blame. So if TOR
>> can protect people who are human and share their cooking recipes then
>> that's all good. Without sharing data the human race would be more
>> like a bunch of chimps fighting over a branch. If the music industry
>> manages to put us in a zoo where we need to pay to look outside, then
>> we are like chimps in a boring zoo without any visitors.
>> 
>> thats not human....
>> 
>> Damn, i got pissed.... My apologies for my ranting... i'll buy some
>> music next week...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> A new report published by the European Union Intellectual Property
>> Office ....
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