Re: IRCNet abuse

[Robert Mischke <rtm_public@xxxxxxxx>]

--- Eugen Leitl <eugen@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb:

> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:04:27PM +0200, Robert
> Mischke wrote:
> 
> > Well, I don't know about the US and I would not
> claim
> > to do so. However, in Germany and probably in
> other
> > European countries, it is illegal because you are
> > acting as a kind of telecommunication provider and
> are
> > therefore not allowed to read the personal data
> you
> 
> Notice that TkUEV requires you to install tapping
> hardware at your own
> expense (IIRC a 20 kEUR VPN box) if you serve more
> than 1000 customers.
> 
> IANAL, so I don't know whether Tor (especially, if
> run for own use, and
> noncommercially) would qualify as being a service
> provider in TkUEV context.

Yeah, one of the most stupid laws that were produced
lately. It's quite useless for fighting crime (as
criminals will just exploit one of the many
exceptions), causes a considerable burden on ISPs, and
lays the foundation for wide-spread abuse.

Concerning tor: From the information on the BMWA
pages, I'd say there could be no such obligation.
Explicitly excluded are: 

[German]

    * Verbindungsnetzen (sog. Backbone-Netze),
    * von Netzknoten, die der Zusammenschaltung mit
dem Internet dienen,
    * von Übertragungswegen, soweit diese nicht dem
unmittelbaren teilnehmerbezogenen Zugang zum Internet
dienen [...]
    * von kleinen Telekommunikationsanlagen
(Telekommunikationsanslagen mit nicht mehr als 1000
Teilnehmern). 

[/German]

I'd say tor classifies either as a "connection
network" (1) or as a "transmission path" (3) and would
therefore be excluded. But IANAL, of course...

Robert



	

	
		
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