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Re: "SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand-alone and multi-platform (Unix, etc)

And so Code Red never existed?
On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Tony wrote:

That is simply not true - many people can check and review the source code for Microsoft products. You just have to be licenced and have a valid reason to do so. e.g. the Chinese government did so to check for backdoors, etc., and so have many others including many software developers.

See http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/ default.mspx
And never work on GPL code ever again because a lawsuit might be made. This is why open source projects should create shell corporations that own all the code: When a lawsuit comes, declare bankruptcy, give them the rights to the code. Then fork off another project and repeat. When they come after you, point out that the previous owners waived the rights to prevent a fork.


From: owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Kenneth Loafman
Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 14:05
To: or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: "SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand- alone and multi-platform (Unix, etc)

The other freedom that they don't mention is freedom from backdoors.
Since no one can see the MS code and verify that it is free from
government intrusion, there is good reason not to use it in an
environment where such government intrusion could be detrimental.


Tony wrote:

If you have already paid to use Windows server, then it is effectively a 'free product'. However you need to be specially licensed to see the source code.

You also get IIS5 with XP, but I would not recommend using that as it is not as secure.


From: owner-or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Anothony Georgeo
Sent: Thu 08/06/2006 12:02
To: or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: "SHTTPD": Windows web-server, light-weight, stand- alone and multi-platform (Unix, etc)


--- Tony <Tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Windows Server 2003 already comes with IIS6

The Tor team wants 'free software' not Microsoft products.

Access to source code and ability to modifity source
code is one of the main legs of 'free software' and
not allowed by Microsoft.

Please read this page for a great definition of 'free

From the site:
Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to
run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve
the software. More precisely, it refers to four
kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose
(freedom 0).

* The freedom to study how the program works, and
adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the
source code is a precondition for this.

* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can
help your neighbor (freedom 2).

* The freedom to improve the program, and release
your improvements to the public, so that the
whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to
the source code is a precondition for this.

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