Re: [tor-talk] [ZS] Re: Can one make money running anonymity services?

[Jacob Schultz <jake@xxxxxx>]

On 30/06/12 12:06, Eugen Leitl wrote: 

>> But are there anonymous payment tools in this days of control? I 
>> just 
> 
> Anonymous prepaid cards, or BitCoin over Tor would come to mind. 

Does anyone know a method of obtaining BitCoins anonymously, other 
than mining them yourself? 

**bitinstant.com has worked flawlessly for me - I have used it three times 
now for varied amounts of money. 

You go to bitinstant.com, set up a cash deposit ---> bitcoin wallet 
transaction (or Mt. Gox voucher if you so choose). Give them a tormail.org 
address if you're uncomfortable....they are in the process of setting up 
UK/Europe options now as well.

You can then go to anyplace that supports moneygram billpay, and use *cash*or any form of untraceable payment you used cash to get (i.e. prepaid 
giftcard). You are untraceable if you use bitinstant. Their system submits 
your funds to the specified address within 5 minutes. 

They even will give you a printable PDF with instructions after you submit 
the transaction request. They charge a 3.99% comission - that's it. They 
even cover the moneygram fee for you. The tellers I've paid are always 
surprised by the fact no fee is required :)



On Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:25:00 PM UTC-4, Will Steinberg wrote:
>
> Buy moneypak.  Go to silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.  Buy btc for painful ~9% 
> rates.  Keep in SR wallet.  Send btc to other wallets or buy cash on SR 
> when you need spending money.
> On Jun 30, 2012 1:07 PM, <tor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
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>> On 30/06/12 15:34, Rüdiger Koch wrote:
>>
>> >> Does anyone know a method of obtaining BitCoins anonymously,
>> >> other than mining them yourself?
>> >>
>> > Such a question from a TOR list is a bit surprising, is it not?
>>
>> I can't identify your logic.
>>
>> > After all, SR is on TOR. Maybe reading their FAQ helps. Hint: Use a
>> > Tumbler.
>>
>> I've no idea what "SR" is. "Tumbler" sounds like some sort of
>> mixing/laundering service. Which would require a *lot* of people to
>> use it in order for it to work in any meaningful way. If you know of
>> such a service that has maybe 50,000 people or more using it daily,
>> please let me know. My guess is that they all have several orders of
>> magnitude fewer users. I'm not a fan of pretend anonymity.
>>
>> - --
>> Mike Cardwell  https://grepular.com/     http://cardwellit.com/
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