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Re: [tor-talk] [ZS] Re: Can one make money running anonymity services?
On 30/06/12 12:06, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> But are there anonymous payment tools in this days of control? I
> Anonymous prepaid cards, or BitCoin over Tor would come to mind.
Does anyone know a method of obtaining BitCoins anonymously, other
than mining them yourself?
**bitinstant.com has worked flawlessly for me - I have used it three times
now for varied amounts of money.
You go to bitinstant.com, set up a cash deposit ---> bitcoin wallet
transaction (or Mt. Gox voucher if you so choose). Give them a tormail.org
address if you're uncomfortable....they are in the process of setting up
UK/Europe options now as well.
You can then go to anyplace that supports moneygram billpay, and use *cash*or any form of untraceable payment you used cash to get (i.e. prepaid
giftcard). You are untraceable if you use bitinstant. Their system submits
your funds to the specified address within 5 minutes.
They even will give you a printable PDF with instructions after you submit
the transaction request. They charge a 3.99% comission - that's it. They
even cover the moneygram fee for you. The tellers I've paid are always
surprised by the fact no fee is required :)
On Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:25:00 PM UTC-4, Will Steinberg wrote:
> Buy moneypak. Go to silkroadvb5piz3r.onion. Buy btc for painful ~9%
> rates. Keep in SR wallet. Send btc to other wallets or buy cash on SR
> when you need spending money.
> On Jun 30, 2012 1:07 PM, <tor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On 30/06/12 15:34, Rüdiger Koch wrote:
>> >> Does anyone know a method of obtaining BitCoins anonymously,
>> >> other than mining them yourself?
>> > Such a question from a TOR list is a bit surprising, is it not?
>> I can't identify your logic.
>> > After all, SR is on TOR. Maybe reading their FAQ helps. Hint: Use a
>> > Tumbler.
>> I've no idea what "SR" is. "Tumbler" sounds like some sort of
>> mixing/laundering service. Which would require a *lot* of people to
>> use it in order for it to work in any meaningful way. If you know of
>> such a service that has maybe 50,000 people or more using it daily,
>> please let me know. My guess is that they all have several orders of
>> magnitude fewer users. I'm not a fan of pretend anonymity.
>> - --
>> Mike Cardwell https://grepular.com/ http://cardwellit.com/
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