Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

[Charlie Belmer <charlie.belmer@xxxxxxxxx>]

I always took it to mean using malware infected hosts, rootkits, and C&C
servers to do the dirty work, which not only makes you hard to trace, but
can also point investigations at the infected host.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Max Bond <max.o.bond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Organized criminals will probably achieve better operational security by
> conducting themselves in the real world as much as possible. This is not an
> option available to a lone dissident in an oppressed country.
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:50 AM, <torlove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hello...
> >
> > I'm an avid tor lover and user.
> >
> > I'm trying to understand a statement I've heard a number of people on the
> > Tor team and in the Tor community repeat over the years and was wondering
> > if it could be explained.
> >
> > The statement: Paraphrasing, it's been said several times, by Roger, etc,
> > that...
> >
> > "Criminals have much better options available to them than Tor for strong
> > internet anonymity."
> >
> > I'm trying to understand what these options are and why don't we
> > non-criminal tech savvy people have some of these better options?
> >
> > Is this just talking about the option of using encrypted botnets, or are
> > there other additional options that criminals use?
> >
> > What are these criminal anonymity methods that are stronger than Tor?
> >
> > Thanks all!
> >
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