Re: [tor-talk] "But he does good work." *Appelbaum*

[Andreas Krey <a.krey@xxxxxx>]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:24:43 +0000, thomas.hluchnik@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
...
> You have. You might consider that intelligent services have large amounts of resources. If this is a planned attack from a group of interested people, they are able to do so.

...and very long-term planning, too.

...
> > But why should we care?
> 
> Did you read Harry Potter's stories? Harry was in a comparable situation, don't forget that.

You could just as well consider the anonymous and non-anonymous victims
being in that boat. Nobody would believe them - until the boat tipped over.

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> > One stupid, but rather funny reference I have here is Hitler. Under his
> > time the Autobahn was built and this was one of the best decisions in
> > German history....
> 
> Excuse me, that's completely wrong.

(Your own links prove that incorrect - he did start the large-scale
deployment even if they existed before here and there.)

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> Wrong. We have a legal system and a generic rule: someone has to be assumed not guilty until the opposite is proofed.

Not every reprehensible behaviour is criminally relevant, and yet you
don't want such people in your community. What to do then? Stay away,
and don't say anything while the community slowly crumbles under the
closet sociopaths with a reputation, the good people being driven
away in disgust?

Indeed, Jake's dementi is consistent with many of the allegations.

Andreas

-- 
"Totally trivial. Famous last words."
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@*.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800
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