Re: [tor-talk] Why do you hide the fact that "Ex-CIA in Tor" from all of Tor users?

[Cari Machet <carimachet@xxxxxxxxx>]

hi

tor is the USG

what did you think the USG makes something for you?

the USG makes something for themselves > they use you to cover their own
anonymity + thats all

isnt it kind of strange that you look to this platform as the only way -
its monolithic thinking ... just like the structure of the USG

ask yourselves how you can be disappointed from something you attached to
like a pacifier

it doesnt work > make different things



On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Anthony Papillion <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

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> On 6/27/2016 6:23 AM, Unknown wrote:
> > trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/19513
> >
> > I'm fine with who joins to the Tor Project. The difference to the
> > code is reviewable by the community using diff tool.
> >
> > I'm disappointed the fact that you, Tor Project, hide this truth
> > without sharing to the Tor users.
>
> I couldn't agree more. I understand that the decision to hire any
> intelligence agent is a difficult one for a project like Tor. But
> hiding it from the community calls into question the vaunted
> 'transparancy' the project constantly talks about. If they weren't
> forthcoming about this, a major development that could absolutely
> effect community trust, one has to wonder what else they aren't being
> completely forthcoming about with the community?
>
> OTOH, I think the leak about DaveC should also strengthen our trust in
> the integrity of the people who run the Tor Project. They didn't just
> say 'let's lie about it and hide it from the community'. There was
> great debate, a lot of discussion, and a bit of agonizing how to best
> handle this. They didn't take this lightly by any means. Still, in the
> end, we have what we have and that's not good.
>
> Tor Project definitely needs to address this publicly. This misstep
> could really harm user trust.
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
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