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Re: [tor-talk] ads slow Tor Browser dramatically
On 11/2/2012 10:29 PM, k e bera wrote:
I'm not sure why there would be leaks with ABP. Afaik it doesnt send
information. However it does update its blocklists which might be
language-specific, which splits the anonymity set (if i understand the
concept). Regarding use of ABP itself among non-Tor users, i have
personally installed it on hundreds of computers every year while
servicing them and updating Firefox. So i am sure the user base is at
least as large as the TBB user base.
Perhaps there is a concern about ability to fix vulnerabilities in the code - who will do that and maintain it. Do they accept patches? It seems to use Mozilla Public License.
ABP itself has changed default policy to accept some simple text ads,
on the grounds of keeping small well behaved websites alive. Should we
be worried about ad-revenue corruption and creep?
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I wasn't suggesting that TBB absolutely try to use AdBlock Plus or any
specific Fx extension. I'm suggesting the concept of somehow limiting
ads that by their size, design & content, dramatically increase page
loading time.
Who would "maintain" this new function? I guess the same people (or
additional ones) that maintain Tor Project & try to attract new users.
I've done many side by side tests, w/ & w/o AdBlock. Often, pages time
out before loading, w/ all ads enabled & load fairly fast w/ ads
blocked. Again, I don't care about AdBlock, per se. Tor Project could
develop their own extension or functionality.
One of the most repeated concepts is, the more users on Tor network, the
more anonymous users are. By TBB's very design & lack of any control
over ads, it keeps droves of potential users away, reducing overall
anonymity.
Yes, it's expected Tor network will be slower than regular internet.
No, pages shouldn't fail to load because of far too many or "over the
top" ads, on an already slow network. TBB devs design it, Vidalia,
Torbutton, etc., so whatever they deem necessary is blocked or limited.
Everyone talks about needing more Tor users to increase anonymity, but
part of TBB's design & all the ads / scripts, sometimes making it one of
_Earth's slowest creatures,_ discourages millions / 100's of millions of
potential users. Ads aren't inherently bad. I'm suggesting that too
many ads on a page, or ones so large or of a design that slow page
loading to a crawl & greatly increase Tor network data load, limits
growth of new Tor users.
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