Re: Broadband Reports: Tor Network Bogged Down by P2P

[jed c <n_o_t_here@xxxxxxxxx>]

Guess I spoke to soon (without thinking).

--- Ben Wilhelm <zorba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> So, um, how exactly do you track how much bandwidth
> each user is using 
> on a network whose sole goal is anonymization?

I was thinking about something on the user side. I
don't know how many users would edit the source code
to get around something like this. 

> 
> And then let's associate that information with a
> server that's supposed 
> to have an admin email contact available.

I understand that tor is about privacy and anonimity.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> jed c wrote:
> > The solution seems simple to me. Anyone using huge
> > amounts of bandwidth should be required to run a
> tor
> > router.
> > 
> > 
> >>Chris Palmer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>----- Forwarded message from John Gilmore
> > 
> > <gnu@xxxxxxxx> -----
> > 
> >>>From: John Gilmore <gnu@xxxxxxxx>
> >>>Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:40:18 -0700
> >>>Subject: [E-IP] Broadband Reports: Tor Network
> > 
> > Bogged Down by P2P
> > 
> >>>http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/68438
> >>>
> >>>Some time ago our security regulars broke down
> the
> > 
> > logistics behind
> > 
> >>>Tor, an anonymity tool from the Electronic
> Frontier
> > 
> > Foundation. It was
> > 
> >>>designed for whistle-blowers, political
> dissidents,
> > 
> > researchers, and
> > 
> >>>others concerned about exchanging information
> > 
> > without authoritarian
> > 
> >>>backlash. Sadly network performance is being
> > 
> > jeopardized by
> > 
> >>>file-traders looking to evade the RIAA.
> >>>
> >>>File traders have been reconfiguring their Bit
> > 
> > Torrent clients to take
> > 
> >>>advantage of the network. Unfortunately the Tor
> > 
> > network wasn't
> > 
> >>>designed with high volume porn transfer in mind,
> so
> > 
> > the activity is
> > 
> >>>slowing it down to a crawl. The likely result
> will
> > 
> > be the EFF running
> > 
> >>>against the grain of their mandate, and
> restricting
> > 
> > network use.
> > 
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>	John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- End forwarded message -----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Bah, I see no problem with using it to evade the
> > 
> > RIAA.  sure, it sucks
> > 
> >>for us Tor people who use it for what is was
> > 
> > intended for.  It just
> > 
> >>means we need more nodes, and we need to grow more
> > 
> > to support this
> > 
> >>demand.  I'm all for giving the finger to "the
> man."
> >>
> >>It's time for Tor to expand, not regulate.  And if
> > 
> > expansions isn't
> > 
> >>possible, just let it suck!  I can't imagine many
> > 
> > fileshare people will
> > 
> >>cleave unto dial-up speeds with their broadband...
> 
> > 
> > Once they learn that
> > 
> >>it sucks to use Tor, they'll stop.  We need
> > 
> > knee-jerk decisions in this
> > 
> >>project like we need knee-jerk political
> actions...
> >>
> >>But, that's just my $0.02
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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