Re: [tor-talk] help us:Korean government started to fine netizen who download child pornography without child

[SiNA Rabbani <sina@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Julian, thank you for speaking your mind. I am also disgusted by the term
and whatever it is supposed to represent.

I don't contribute to Tor, so some dude in Korea can watch youth being
abused in the name of entertainment,  where some see pleasure and fun, I
see misery and suffering.

--SiNA
On Oct 20, 2012 1:11 PM, "Julian Yon" <julian@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:34:48 +0000
> Lee Whitney <lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Eugen do you have children?  Not attacking you based on this but I'm
> > curious how it affects perspective.
> >
> > In my mind it's pretty easy to drawn the line, things that have
> > victims should usually be illegal and things that are unpopular but
> > don't hurt anyone usually should be legal.  No slippery slope
> > necessary.
>
> I am willing to declare that I do have children, and previously worked
> with kids. I also have experience of victims of abuse. In the case of
> pornography, there is a *massive* moral/ethical difference between
> images which clearly state âonly adults are involvedâ and those which
> purport to actually involve children. I don't think âobviousnessâ of a
> fake is a viable criterion for determining the appropriateness of such
> material.
>
> I am an anarchist and don't think that legislation is ever the ârightâ
> solution to a problem, but as we don't yet live in an anarchy sometimes
> it's the best we're going to get for now. As anarchism is about
> protecting *everybody's* right not to be abused, campaigning for the
> legalisation of a crime with obvious victims (especially ones such as
> children who are naturally vulnerable) is not something I see as
> helpful. I don't think it's helpful for Tor (or Tor users) to be
> associated with that either, hence my decision to respond.
>
> --
> 3072D/F3A66B3A Julian Yon (2012 General Use) <pgp.2012@xxxxxx>
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