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Re: [tor-talk] TBB 2.2.32 & Automatic Updates



Hi,

Yesterday I downloaded tor-browser-2.2.32-3_en-US.exe and set it up on a USB stick.  When I try to start it, it gives a connection refused by peer message just after parsing the GEOP.  If I retry, it says Tor stopped unexpectedly. Vidalia hangs after giving the message Bootstrapped 100% done. I cannot get the advanced message log to give any debug entries.  
If I close that browser bundle and use Task manager to make sure that Tor and Vidalia really are not running, then start tor-browser-2.2.31-1-alpha_en-US.exe which I downloaded on August 21, that version starts with no problem and continues to open Aurora.  I am using that instance to send this e-mail.

I am using these on a Windows Vista laptop in a hotel that requires logging on to their Wi-Fi  for a time limited session with a web browser before they allow access to the internet.  I am using IE to log on and leaving it open as they requested.

David Carlson

--- On Tue, 9/6/11, sigi <tornode@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: sigi <tornode@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] TBB 2.2.32 & Automatic Updates
To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 4:45 PM

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 06:36:34PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
> Thus spake sigi (tornode@xxxxxxxx):
>
> > Sorry, but at this point, I'm really asking myself, how I can trust
> > the concept of the torproject anymore? Some time ago, the users were
> > warned about the use of Torbutton with Firefox >3.6 - now the torproject
> > recommends to use their TorBrowserBundle - but it has automatic updates
> > for the browser included and some DigiNotar certificates?
>
> You are misunderstanding the situation. See other replies.
>
> Please bear with us. The DigiNotar fiasco forced us to release the
> Firefox 6-based TBBs as "stable" at least 2 weeks early (if not a full
> month), because we were unable to do source modifications to Firefox
> 3.6 on Windows to properly deal with the certificate updates and the
> initial "Dutch exemption".
>
> We would appreciate it if you tried to help us by diagnosing bugs and
> issues rather than calling our integrity into question over bugs that
> slipped in during a very high pressure situation.

Pardon me for being so rude. I see how difficult this situation is for
you Tor-devs! I think the most confusing point for me is the switch to
the TorBrowserBundle. I'm using Tor a lot on my local machine - for
xmpp, irc and www, and I'm certain it provides a great service for
anonymity. The question for me was, if I can trust this Browser-Bundle
enough for now.

> > I'm confused. And I'd like some clarification here. Possibly I should
> > switch back to my own browser-profile with torbutton? Is it as safe to
> > use the Torbrowserbundle, as it was one year ago to use tor with your
> > own browser with Torbutton? Is there any improvement?
>
> We hope to better answer these questions in a Tor Browser Bundle
> design document. Just one of the many other items that were supposed
> to go into a new "stable" release that got pushed aside due to recent
> events:
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3812

I'd really like to have such a document.

Kudos to you all!

Regards, sigi.
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